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1. "Yet another book"
Posted by adminlizzieborden on Jan-19th-02 at 3:26 PM
Arborwood Private Forums: Lizzie Borden Society: Second
Street Second-Hand Shop: Yet another book on ebay from
Lizzie Library
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By stefani on Wednesday, 11/21/2001 - 12:26 am [Edit]
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Check this one out! It is book sold with this description:
"Early childrens book from Lizzie Borden's Library
dated 1875 and titled 'The Childrens Prize'. The book
measures 5&5/8" X 7&3/4" and is a softcover
with 14 pages, probably one of a series of this type.
The book comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity which
reads "THIS CERTIFIES THIS ARTIFACT IS FROM THE LIZZIE
BORDEN COLLECTION GEORGE E. QUIGLEY PRESIDENT, THE INTERNATIONAL
LIZZIE BORDEN ASSOCIATION CURATOR, MAPLECROFT MUSEUM (1995-1999)
CURATOR, MAPLECROFT MUSEUM (1999-2001) NOTED AUTHORITY,
EDUCATOR, AUTHOR, LECTURER-AUGUST 4, 1999 GEORGE E QUIGLEY
(hand signed) THE CHILDREN'S PRIZE DATED MAY 1875 WAS
BOUGHT FROM THE ESTATE OF ERNEST JERRY, LIZZIE BORDEN'S
PERSONAL CHAUFFER AND NEIGHBOR. IT WAS FROM HER LIBRARY
ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF HER MANSION, MAPLECROFT".
Certificate measures 11" X 8&1/2", some
small puncture marks on the left side but none on the
printing. The book itself is in fair condition at best
but is an early piece and hard to find in any condition."
By stefani on Wednesday, 11/21/2001 - 12:31 am [Edit]
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for some reason the link did not go hot to ebay. cut and
paste it instead to go there. sorry.
By kashesan on Wednesday, 11/21/2001 - 09:43 am [Edit]
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Hey I got a book signed by Lizzie too. Yeah-thats the
ticket-its "The Bridges Of Madison County-signed
by Lizzie. Any takers?
By stefani on Thursday, 11/22/2001 - 01:37 am [Edit] [Reply]
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What a great idea for a humor thread: Books you would
NOT find in Lizzie's library.
I'll start:
How to Win Friends and Influence People
By kat on Thursday, 11/22/2001 - 04:44 am [Edit] [Reply]
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June Bride Magazine
By kashesan on Friday, 11/23/2001 - 10:13 am [Edit] [Reply]
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The Joy Of Sex
By stefani on Friday, 11/30/2001 - 03:06 am [Edit] [Reply]
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Well, to update, the book sold for 133.06. Anybody here
purchase it?
Oh, another title not to be found on Lizzie's shelves:
What Color is Your Parachute?
By augusta on Friday, 11/30/2001 - 09:34 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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I'm surprised that item got such a high bid. It didn't
look like it was in good condition to me. I wonder if
these bidders think her actual signature is on these things.
I hope the buyer got it for his/her own personal collection
and enjoys it in that way - I wouldn't think it'd get
that much in reselling.
By kashesan on Wednesday, 12/05/2001 - 10:59 am [Edit]
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From the Maplecroft library-NOT:
"When Bad Things Happen To Good People"
By stefani on Thursday, 12/20/2001 - 02:04 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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It is on sale again. Wonder why?
By raystephanson on Thursday, 12/20/2001 - 08:29 pm [Edit]
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Actually, the book least likely to be owned by Lizzie
was E H Porter's "The Fall River Tragedy", given
its suppression. Agree?
By kat on Thursday, 12/20/2001 - 10:50 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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Lizzie probably read every word ever printed about her..She'd
be reading this Forum if she knew about it...
By harry on Friday, 12/21/2001 - 12:27 am [Edit] [Reply]
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If the seller is the same one who bought it awhile back
then he/she is probably a believer in the "greater
fool" theory. There is always one out there who is
willing to buy. He may even turn a profit on the deal.
By kat on Friday, 12/21/2001 - 08:49 am [Edit] [Reply]
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To Ray, and all:
In the LBQ, October, 1997 (Vol.IV, #4) beginning page
3 there is an article by William Schley-Ulrich (our own
Bill) entitled PORTER'S "Fall River Tragedy"-
HOW RARE?
Some excerpts:
"...Porter's book was published privately by subscription
and sold for $1.50.
...Mr. Robert A. Flynn, publisher and well-known collector
of Lizzie memorabilia, believes the printer made an initial
run of 500 or so copies of the original edition. After
experiencing a lukewarm reception from the general public,
it was decided to discontinue publication. Flynn believes
no more than 100 copies are extant.
A popular tale making the rounds tells of Lizzie buying
and burning all but 25 subscription copies. No evidence
to support this theory has ever surfaced.
...Mr. Patterson Smith, an antiquarian bookseller in Montclair,
New Jersey, has specialized in literature on criminolgy
for more than twenty-five years. During that period he
has handled twenty copies of The Fall River Tragedy. Smith
estimates there are still hundreds of copies 'out there',
that have yet to see the light of day.
...In September of 1924, Pearson mailed the book to (William)
Roughead. 'I had little trouble in getting a copy of the
Fall River Tragedy,' he wrote, 'and the cost was inconsiderable.'
In a follow-up letter he said, 'Sending Porter's book
was a trifle, it was easily obtained, and I still owe
you for more than that!' Apparently the volume wasn't
quite so rare seventy-odd years ago!"
--Then he does a massive search and lists all positive
and probable copies extant.
"Known Total Ownership:
# Reported = 42
# Verified = 36 (which totals comprise Institutional &
Private ownership).
MS. Constance Mendes, of the Fall River Historical Society,
informs me their Curator has stated there are at least
50 copies of the first edition in private collections
in the area. Mr. Edward Thibault, Borden scholar, personally
knows of at least 20 people who own the book."
--I'd say Bill has become somewhat of an expert on the
subject of the number of copies, previous and now existing,
of the book Fall River Tragedy. He has been a gentleman
not to interfere, so far, in our un-schooled surmises
on the subject. Let us leave that subject with our dignity
intact, thanks to Bill's scholarship.
By raystephanson on Friday, 12/21/2001 - 03:24 pm [Edit]
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How rare is "rare"? I have a relative who has
the copy of 'LIFE' from November 1963 with the front page
photo of the start of the assassination of JFK.
Maybe people wouldn't own up to owning a book detested
by one of the richest and powerful person in town?
By kat on Friday, 12/21/2001 - 09:13 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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Regardless, the point is that the volume was not suppressed
by Lizzie or her "agents" other than in some
melodrama.
By billu on Saturday, 12/22/2001 - 11:57 am [Edit] [Reply]
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Kat:
Thank you for those kind words. I now have the comfort
that at least two people have read my article. You and
my mom.
Over the years, for the want of something better to do,
I have developed a system that rates the written word.
I call it the "Believability factor", or BF
for short.
The average book has a BF of nine on a scale from one
to ten, while a magazine article only rates an anemic
seven. Why this is so I do not know, but it is a fact.
If I had to rate the messages on this board, I'm afraid,
in good conscience, I couldn't go higher than a two. The
reason for this is the veracity of almost every opinion
stated here is challenged by someone.
But I guess that isn't a bad thing. Right? We wouldn't
want to get too cocky, would we?
After all, they do say a difference of opinion is what
makes life interesting, and I certainly wouldn't want
to argue with that!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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