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1. "Pearson's Proverbs"
Posted by adminlizzieborden on Jan-8th-02 at 9:58 PM
By kat on Thursday, 11/29/2001 - 08:05
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Writing on 19th century muder, Pearson, in Murders That
Baffled the Experts(rpt.,1967),
says, on pg.21:
"Many guilty men have testified on their own behalf--but
for an innocent person, accused of murder NOT to go on
the witness stand, is, I believe, rare."
pg.42:
"People often forget, in considering a murder that
has been attended with bloodshed, that bloodstains on
a person's garments are not always signs of guilt. They
may be proofs of innocence. The murderer who has taken
extreme care may be the one person who has avoided all,
or almost all, stains."
pg.70:
"We are often shown in the moving picture theatres
how easy it is to railroad an innocent man to the gallows.
We are seldom shown how hard it is- as a matter of sober
fact- to send even a guilty man to execution. We are not
often shown The Real Truth-that an innocent man 9 times
out of 10 can show that he is innocent. And the other
time he can throw enough doubt on his guilt so that no
jury will convict."
pg.78:
"When Richard Mansfield played Richard III...both
hands were dyed crimson as if visibly dipped in the blood
of his pitiful victims. That is melodrama...nothing like
that happens outside the theatre. The murderer walks through
streets smiling and affable, his hands as white as yours
or mine."
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--Upon reading Murders That Baffled the Experts (by Pearson),
the basic (biased?) logic of criminality that he espouses
shines through. He can't seperate these truths he seems
to find self-evident, from his several otherwise balanced
treatments of mysterious murder cases that so fascinated
him. It's hard to tell if the Borden Case influenced his
theories on crime forever after, or whether he came into
crime reportage with these ideas already intact.
By raystephanson on Thursday, 11/29/2001 - 06:17 pm [Edit]
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The only book available by Edmund L Pearson is the reprint
of his "Studies in Murder". He read accounts
from books and newspapers, and recycled the facts. Page
32 in that book explains why Lizzie could not be assumed
guilty.
By kat on Thursday, 11/29/2001 - 10:12 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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Pg.31:
Harrington "warned" Lizzie "that it would
be well for her to make no further statements for that
day. Owing to the atrocity of the crime, he suggested
she might well be confused. She answered, however, with
what he called 'a stiff courtesy,' and said:
'No, I can tell you all I know now, just as well as at
any other time.'"
Porter (quoted by Pearson) says it was later reported
to the City Marshal, which "aroused suspicions 'in
the minds of the police that the daughter knew more of
the circumstances of the tragedy than she cared to tell.'"
Pearson-"The police were to pay dearly for such suspicions,
but it seems hard to understand, in view of what has been
related, to say nothing of what was yet to be discovered,
how they could have avoided them. And yet it was a monstrous
thing to suspect. As time went on, it took the form not
of a mere accusation (begin pg.32) of complicity, or guilty
knowledge of the crime, but of the part of principal and
sole actor in it. And to suggest that a woman of good
family, of blameless life and hitherto unimpeachable character,
could possibly commit two such murders, is to suggest
something so rare as to be almost unknown to criminology.
It is beside the question to cite the many homicides of
which women have been proven guilty. Nearly always, when
the victim has been an adult person, they have been murders
by poison or by shooting. When, in modern times, the attack
has taken a more brutal form, the murderess has usually
been a woman of base antecedents, one from the criminal
class, and acting in concert with a man. There is that
about the act of battering in the skulls of an elderly
man and woman which suggests the male butcher, not the
more subtle though equally malicious methods of the murderess.
The police of Fall River and the law officers of the county
were not so inexperienced as to ignore this, and they
could only have taken the step they did under the pressure
of strong evidence. There was no lack of other and powerful
influences working against it."
-Ray, you happened to point to the ONLY page I had marked
lightly with a pencil with an arrow pointing to "the
male butcher." Otherwise, with a pretty full qoute,
people can follow up on your comment.
-We know of the Knowlton/Pearson correspondance that E.L.P.
had with Knowlton's son. It shows the remarkable dedication
to culling all sources and his "recycled facts"
were written by a total professional, and with his Librarian
background he knew where to look for curious supplemental
information, as all good librarians do...He eventually
quit his job at the New York Public Library to concentrate
full time on this new Life's Work..Author Extrordinare
of True Crime.
By raystephanson on Sunday, 12/02/2001 - 06:44 pm [Edit]
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What is the "Best Evidence" in this case?
Doesn't the suppression of EH Porter's book say there
was something in it that they didn't want the public to
see? Newspapers have a limited life and distribution.
Who remembers the news from 6 months ago?
By kat on Sunday, 12/02/2001 - 10:39 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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The BEST Evidence in this case, is explained by Judge
Davis, excerpted in Trial of Lizzie Borden, by E.L. Pearson,
pg.70:
"The question was not alone, 'What are the chances
that any murder should be committed by a stranger in the
middle of the forenoon, with more or less windows open,
in a city, in a dwelling house, on a frequented street,
with workmen on adjoining lots and a servant girl outside
washing windows?' Nor, 'What are the chances that such
a murder should be committed unknown to a person in possession
of the house at the time?' Nor, 'What are the chances
that TWO homicides should be committed an hour or more
apart, on different floors of such a dwelling house, by
a stranger, with another person in possession, without
knowledge or alarm?' Nor, 'What are the chances in SUCH
a house, of all others, more guarded by locks and bolts
than was the general custom?' Nor, 'What are the chances
that, with one victim an hour before felled to the floor
by a thumping fall, the second homicide should be committed
when the only person in possession had gone to the barn
on a trivial errand, and returned in time to hear a groan
in the yard of a man who must have been stunned by the
first blow upon his head? Nor, 'What are the chances that
the person in possession in the middle of a hot forenoon
should go to ironing a few pocket handkerchiefs and leave
them unfinished at the very moment of the second murder
to go to the barn, under a broiling sun, to get a piece
of metal for a screen, or lead for a sinker for a fishing
line without hooks, for use upon a contemplated excursion,
when she might have bought the sinker for a cent when
she purchased the hooks?'
"These were not the material questions alone to be
considered. The popular mind and the Court seems to have
considered that if EACH (any?) ONE of these facts was
POSSIBLY consistent with innocence, or possible by another,
there could be no conviction. But the material question
was whether a jury could find that all the circumstances
with others to be alluded to hereafter, which such others
as may suggest themselves, could concur and happen at
the same time, and whether the probabilty of the happening
of the coincidences did or did not 'exceed all limits
of an arithetical or a moral nature...' "
"It is a rule of law that the possession of property
stolen and unaccounted for is sufficient for conviction...But
the same law...applies to capital crimes. Here was a person
who had in possession the bodies of two victims robbed
ofthe precious jewels of their lives. Does anybody think
that if this evidence had been applied to a case of robbery,
or of mere property, the law administered, or the verdict,
would have been the same?"
-or if the "person in possession" had BEEN A
MAN?
(Judge Blaisdell)
By raystephanson on Monday, 12/03/2001 - 09:25 pm [Edit]
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I do not have the time to comment on "kat" msg.
There is a book "Best Evidence" by David Lifton,
about his investigations into the evening of 11/22/1963.
JFK's body was wrapped in a sheet and put into a bronze
casket. The body arrived in Wash.DC in a body bag and
a plastic casket. Also, there was a report of "surgery
on the head".
"Best Evidence" is what the jury believes from
considering conflicting evidence that is not 1000% accurate.
Like in the Borden case: Lizzie is Not Guilty, and that's
that. No matter what people said then, or now. AR Brown's
book is very knowledgable about the long suppressed facts.
I believe it provides the "best evidence"; and
that many here will not agree. Some because of commercial
interests in the legend, others because they have made
up their mind and can't be bothered by any facts they
overlooked.
By kat on Monday, 12/03/2001 - 10:48 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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I only quoted a judge. I don't think you meant me personally...
By kat on Monday, 12/03/2001 - 11:19 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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In Murders That Baffled the Experts, Pearson reviews a
case of the muder of Miss Page, 1904. Again, his theory
of crime glows in the dark, as truths of human nature.(and
seem reminiscent of the Borden case...)
"Newspapers took up the case with vigor, and, aside
from one contributor to the cause of justice, played for
the most part a thoroughly mischievous role throughout
the long history of the case. This is not to say that
the more reputable papers did not record events honestly.
But the yellow press screamed itself hoarse: 1st abusing
the police for not making an instant arrest; 2nd abusing
them for making an arrest and bringing the offender to
trial..."
(pg81)
"I have known persons who were quite willing to convict
him (the accused) of crime in THIS death (of his wife),
for which there is no evidence at all, but were firm in
their belief in his innocence of the murder for which
the legal proof is complete." (81)
"...he was an 'innocent clear-eyed boy', undergoing
grievous persecution by the police. Just what being 'clear-eyed'
had to do with it, and why it is any more pleasant to
be murdered by some one who is 'clear-eyed' than by another
whose eyes are cloudy, is always a mystery to me."
"...But this was a case of circumstantial evidence,
and the usual ill-formed distrust of it began to be experienced."
(83)
"The public hysteria took it's usual course. The
prisoner was held guiltless (even though convicted), a
fair cherub, while the family of the murdered girl became
targets for slander and abuse." (85)
By kat on Thursday, 12/06/2001 - 05:41 am [Edit] [Reply]
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Same source.
Chapter on Pat Mahon:
Pearson talked to (the late) Edgar Wallace (writer of
detective fiction) and "his remarks confirmed impressions
I had formed in reading about other (murderous) men of
this type: Mahon was a complete EGOTIST; his world began
and ended in himself. He could act without compassion
or pity, as some folk lack the musical sense or the mathematical
faculty. He allowed nothing to stand in the way of his
own advantages or pleasures:...HE Really Pitied Himself!"
(92)
On Henry Wainwright:
"Like many murderers, he was a vainglorious, egotistical
person, clever rather than really able, and had come to
feel contempt for the intelligence of everyone because
he had fooled a few. If a murderer is really skillfull,
of course, we never hear of him nor suspect him at all.
But he is usually a cruel egotist, and it follows he is
also, a good part of the time, a big fool." (114)
-Somehow I can't keep from envisioning Pearson speaking
thusly of Lizzie, with each muderer he profiled, knowing
he thought her guilty...
By kat on Thursday, 12/06/2001 - 05:51 am [Edit] [Reply]
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BTW: The great Edgar Wallace once said:
"Suicide Is Confession.'
By raystephanson on Monday, 12/10/2001 - 04:15 pm [Edit]
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Note that Pearson's talk about the Mabel Page murder quote
newspapers that are long forgotten; but the book lives
longer. His is a tertiary source, taken from secondary
sources.
Isn't this off-topic and irrelevant to solving the Borden
Murders? Doesn't AR Brown's solution best answer the questions?
By kat on Monday, 12/10/2001 - 10:24 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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This topic is PEARSON, and my opinion is that the Borden
crimes so enthralled him, and obsessed him, that he looked
at all crime in the light of THIS ONE: Therefore it is
"on topic". I see "Borden's" in every
quote I give...
Learning about this author's psychology of crime themes
gives us more insight into the character of the criminal,
and the effects that crime has on those innocently involved.
By raystephanson on Monday, 12/17/2001 - 09:22 pm [Edit]
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to "kat" - after reading Pearson, and his personal
comments / confessions, I do not think highly of him as
a person. Would anyone care for him if he didn't write
about this famous case?
By kat on Monday, 12/17/2001 - 11:25 pm [Edit] [Reply]
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What did he do , as a person, that offended you?
In More Studies In Murder, Borden chapter, p.121-2 :
"It occured to me, a few years ago, that one day
I might write a book which should have nothing in it about
Miss Lizzie Borden.
,,,If pushed into a corner on this subject, it is possible
to urge two kinds of defense(that he continues to write
about her). One is that Miss Lizzie, of all the curious
gallery of folk whose adventures I have investigated,
seems to have the widest attraction.
...Moreover, one or two unrestrained admirers have assured
me that except for my account of the case of Miss Borden,
I would have done well never to set finger to typewriter
key. To quote their flattery, verbatim, they said: 'That
chapter of yours about that girl--what's her name?--Mary
Borden--is the only thing you ever wrote that's worth
a damn!'"
At the time (1936), Pearson had already had published
Studies In Murder, 1924
Murder At Smutty Nose, 1926
Five Murders, 1928
Instigation of the Devil, 1930
and edited the Autobiography of a Criminal: The Life of
Heny Tufts, 1930.
There was the beginning of a huge interest in the works
of "true-crime", including William Roughheads
efforts, and the Famous Trial series, here and in England.
Pearson was fortunate in that his interests lay in a new
genre that was becoming poular and lucrative, allowing
him to quit his job at the New York Public Libray to write,
interview, attend trials and research full time.
If it wasn't for Edmund Pearson, the Borden Mystery might
have disolved in the publics interests quickly, and been
overtaken by the sensation of the next big crime. By keeping
it in the public eye, with different "slants"
each book, he brings us foreward into the PRESENT DAY,
where here we sit discussing it!
And yes, since he WAS in on the advent of true-crime &
trial reportage, like Whittington-Egan and Roughhead,
he would still have been popular. We're just LUCKY he
chose our LIZZIE!
By harry on Tuesday, 12/18/2001 - 01:42 am [Edit] [Reply]
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One thing that bothers me about Pearson is his complete
omission of the Mullaly/Fleet/hatchet handle incident
in his "The Trial of Lizzie Borden".
In that incident Mullaly claims to have seen the handle
to the handleless hatchet in the same box as the hatchet
head and that Fleet seen it also. Fleet
had already testified that there was no handle to be found.
Fleet was recalled and still denied seeing it. This is
covered quite extensively in "Forty Whacks"
by Kent.
Whether Mullaly or Fleet is correct is not the point.
It is to me the fact that Pearson fails to even mention
it at all. The newspapers of the day considered it quite
newsworthy and damaging to the Commonwealth's case.
By kat on Tuesday, 12/18/2001 - 05:01 am [Edit] [Reply]
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I was reviewing an error I had made naming Whittingham-Egan
as conteporary to Pearson & Roughhead-he was in the
early 70's-I had meant Miss F. Tennyson Jesse as a crime
writer in the 20's and 30's.
I verified this by going to the Knowlton-Pearson correspondence,
LBQ, July 1999.
Oddly I found on page 11, in a letter from Pearson to
Knowlton's son, dated Aug.28th, 1924 (letter #71):
"My egregious publishers have already let "Studies"
get temporarily out of stock, and it maybe that there
will, some day, be another addition. I may be allowed
to correct, emend, and alter it.
If possible, will you note and some day let me know of
any corrections, additions, or changes which you think
ought to be made, especially, of course, in the Borden
case?
These occur to me: (1) a better resume of Lizzie's inquest
testimony, which I now know can be found in the New Bedford
Standard of June 13, 1893, where the whole thing was printed;
(2) a clearer statement about the handle-less hatchet,
- as it stands it seems to intimate, to some readers,
that the killing was done with a hatchet which had no
handle at the time; (3) possibly a little more about the
dresses, although this is a long and wearying topic"....
"(Editor's note: I find this interesting. The last
three letters point to Pearson not having had access to
the complete Lizzie Borden inquest testimony prior to
writing his first, and arguably most inportant, piece
about the Borden Murders...")"
In a later letter Pearson laments that he is not allowed
to make "extensive alterations of the (printing)
plates."
-I realize you allude to the TRIAL book, but this shows
that hatchet was on his list. However, many obstacles
could have prevented him from bearing down on the hatchet/weapon
argument in that book. One might even be space limitations,
and the fact that it was not clear in the actual trial
WHAT the problems were between the police, prosecution,
and hatchet combined with the State's contention that
the weapon was basically irrelevant, and not even named
in the indictment.
(What other tack could they take when they have a plethora
of possible weapons but none with blood or hair or any
direct evidence, other than that they were found on the
premises? They could not tie any weapon to any assailant).
-possibly he left this out as embarrassing to Knowlton:
as an unasked favor.
-one book would be 1900 pages to include everything in
that trial.
By raystephanson on Tuesday, 12/18/2001 - 02:34 pm [Edit]
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My reading of Pearson shows him to be a proud, arrogant
snob (not that there's anything wrong with that). More
importantly, he DID edit the transcript of the Trial so
one-sidedly that it amounted to a hoax (said E Radin).
Leaving facts out to make Lizzie appear guilty is his
right, but I do not think much of this pandering to ignorance.
Just as Radin left out Lizzie's claim that "neither
Bridget or anyone who worked for Father was guilty".
You are free to disagree.
2. "Re:
Pearson's Proverbs"
Posted by Kat on Jan-13th-02 at 7:02 AM
In response to Message #1.
(Message last edited Jan-13th-02 7:05
AM.)
See Pearson-Radin Controversy, by Gerald Gross-THREAD
in "Privy."
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