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1. "and what about Nance?"
Posted by adminlizzieborden on Jan-8th-02 at 9:39 PM

By tina on Friday, 11/23/2001 - 06:27 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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I mean why did Emma not get along with her? Was it her partying ways, or was it simply, she preferred her and Lizzie to be totally secluded? To top that off, why did Nance stop coming around, etc? And with her out of the picture, if it was indeed Nance that drove Emma away, then why didn't Emma come back after she was gone? So much to think about. Any ideas?

 
By dave on Friday, 11/23/2001 - 08:53 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Na, Lizzie wasnt much of a partier, although she did throw a riotous week-long bash at Nance's Brindley Farm summer house in Tyngsboro. And then theres that other party that Lizzie threw for Nance and her Boston theatre gang at Maplecroft. But thats about it as far as Lizzie being a party girl. Through my research, I've learned that Emma moved out A MONTH BEFORE Lizzie threw that party, so it wasnt cuz of Lizie's party that Emma left. But maybe Lizzie was messing with Nance or the driver--or both! JMHO

 
By kat on Saturday, 11/24/2001 - 01:37 am [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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And it has been written that Emma left French Street for good, after talking with Rev. BUCK, and explaining that life at Maplecroft had "become intolerable..." but BUCK died 13 months before Emma LEFT!

 
By tina on Sunday, 11/25/2001 - 10:31 am [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Wow Kat, what detail...LOL. Yes I heard the same thing, and of course you cannot talk to a dead priest. As for partying ways, I guess that was misinterpreted Dave. I was talking of Nance's partying ways, why Emma seemed not to like Nance SO much. Now it's got me bewildered all that much more, seeing as how the Reverend she talked to before she left died. I also heard she lived with two other Spinster sisters and came back, yet still did not talk to Lizzie. Am I wrong? Nance was gone by then, because she eventually died there.
Tina

 
By raystephanson on Sunday, 11/25/2001 - 05:54 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Its quite probable that Lizzie got tired of bankrolling Nance's extravagant ways.
Or Nance found another sugar-daddy?

 
By tinar on Sunday, 11/25/2001 - 09:01 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Shouldn't that be "Sugar Mama?"  I don't believe Lizzie's money would have held someone like Nance for long. Fall River probably would have bored her to tears. If indeed they had an affair, Nance probably tired Lizzie long before Lizzie tired of her.

I think in the interview Nance gave following Lizzie's death, she mentioned never having met Emma.

 
By kat on Sunday, 11/25/2001 - 10:37 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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It seems as if Nance being so famous at the time, she would have TONs of friends and admirers- plus she toured with her acting troupe and travelled a lot. Provincial Lizzie was bound to be left behind, eventually. This friendship did not seem to last as long as might be inferred, though it has been noted that Lizzie helped Nance out of a legal bind, a lawsuit she may have helped settle for money owed creditors. (and yea, that might get OLD fast).

 
By dave on Monday, 11/26/2001 - 04:20 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Nance in her June 4th interview for the New Bedford Standard a few days after Lizzie's death described the time she knew Lizzie this way: "we were like two ships that greet each other in passing."

She had only nice things to say about Lizzie. Nance also said she wasnt a good letter-writer, and with her busy theatre career and many lovers, one can assume how and why the relationship with Lizzie ended.

 
By tina on Sunday, 12/02/2001 - 09:15 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Well I also believe that the farm that Nance had gotten through Lizzie ended up getting repossessed towards the end of their "Friendship", so maybe Lizzie got tired of paying her bills???
Tina

 
By kristin on Saturday, 12/29/2001 - 07:06 am [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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I think that Lizzie had defined herself as an outlaw and wanted to just be completly exotic from the rest of the world after the murders. I think that she wanted everyone to believe that she could be capable of murder and such hideous behavior...I have no idea why. Emma must have felt secluded from the Lizzie and Nance and couln't fit in with their behaviors so she ran and was terribly disturbed that her sister could behave in such a manner...and evedently didn't want her in her life any longer.......

 
By dave on Saturday, 12/29/2001 - 06:00 pm [Edit] [Reply] [Msg Link]  
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Nance once said: "better to be an outlaw than not free." Maybe she got that from Lizzie 

We know Lizzie wasnt "free" at the Borden house, not like she wanted to be.

 

(Message last edited Jan-9th-02  1:38 PM.)

Nance O'Neil was a fox! Lucky Lizzie, even if it only was a passing fancy!

Do you suppose Nance really didn't know WHO LIZZIE BORDEN WAS, as has been suggested in other sources?
Why would a beautiful (well, Helen-Hunt looking) famous actress accept provincial Lizzie into her coterie of admirers UNLESS she also "collected" famous people....
Lizzie was BIG news--I don't buy it that Nance didn't know who she was.