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Topic Name: Witness Statements--J.M.HEAP, Pg. 40- 42

1. "Witness Statements--J.M.HEAP, Pg. 40- 42"
Posted by Kat on May-30th-02 at 11:30 PM


August 14th I saw Ronnald St. Amant. He said that August 4th he was coming from Atwater's coal yard on Eight Rod Way with a half ton of coal at 2.30 or 3 o'clock. He met a man at the corner of Eight Rod Way and Pleasant street. "The man asked me if he could get in. I told him yes, come on then. He asked me if I could take him to New Bedford. I asked him why he did not take the cars. He said he wanted to go in a team. I asked him if he had a girl with him. He said no. He asked me how much I charge to take him to New Bedford. I said four dollars. He said all right. Then he kept kicking the horse. I made him understand that I had too much load to trot, and he stopped kicking the horse. I asked him what part of New Bedford he wanted to go to. He said the south part. Then he asked me if I could come back at four or five o'clock in the morning. I said it is too late, I want to come back at eleven or twelve. He said that all right, lets hurry up. He came to the woodyard on Jencks street. Before we got there he asked me if I had a buggy. I said no, I have got a carry all. I showed him the carryall. He said it was all right. He got into the carriage before I could hitch the horse to it; then he gave me a five dollar bill, I gave him one back. He wanted the reins, and kept saying hurry up. I saw that he was in a hurry, that I could not change my clothes, so I sent a boy after my coat and vest. The boy brought them. Then my wife came and asked me where I was going. I said, to take this man to New Bedford. She said, I dont want you to take that man to New Bedford. Then she said that there had been some one murdered in the city today. She said it might be bad to take that man to New Bedford. I told her that he had paid me. She said, give him back his money. I do not want you to go to New Bedford. I gave him back his five dollar bill, and he gave me my one dollar bill. As near as I could understand him, he said, I have paid you, and I want to go to New Bedford. I told him my wife did not want me to go. Get out, I dont want to see you here again.

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Description. Age 28 or 30, height 5 feet 8 inches or 8 and 1/2; weight 175 or 180 lbs; dark complexion; full face; smooth shaven; a little round shouldered, and leans a little to the left when walking; a plain dark suit, cut away coat, a black stiff hat, white shirt and collar, and black bow; black hair.

Mrs. Exentive StAmant said that the man sat in the carriage, his head bent forward, and his hat drawn over his eyes, and kept saying hurry up and get in. When Mr. StAmant said here is your money back, the man said, aint it enough, will you take ten dollars. He took the five dollars and some silver from his pocket. Description. Age 30 or 35 years; height 5 feet 8 or 8 and 1/2 inches; weight 175 or 180 lbs; dark complexion, full face, smooth shaven, black hair, a little round shouldered, and leans a little to the left when walking, a plain dark suit, cut away coat, a black stiff hat, white shirt and collar, and black bow.

John St. Laurant, No. 59 Jencks street. "Saw the man when he came out of he wood yard. He asked me if there is a livery stable around here. I told him there is one on Flint street."
Description. Age 25 or 30; height 5 feet 6 or 8 inches; weight 150 lbs. dark complexion, rather plain, dark clothes, frock coat, dark derby hat, tight fitting pants, and outing shirt, a little round shouldered, and leans a little to the left when he walks.

Francois Charret, Flint Street, works for Mr. St. Amant. "I was in the wood yard when Mr. StAmant and the man came in. I thought by the looks of the man's hands and face he worked out of doors. They had the appearance of being sun burned. The inside of his hands was rough and hard, I saw them when he gave the money to Mr. St. Amant. He got into the carryall before we could hitch the horse to it, and kept saying hurry up. When Mr. StAmant said, here is your money back", the man said "aint it enough, will you take ten dollars. He took the five dollar bill and some silver from his pocket."
Description. Age 31 or 32; height 5 feet 8 or 8 and 1/2; weight 175 or 180 lbs. dark complexion, full face, smooth shaven, a little round shouldered, and leaned a little to the left when walking, a plain dark suit, cut away coat, a black stiff hat, white shirt
and collar and black bow.
"I saw the man go to Pleasant street. He stood at the corner of Pleasant and Jencks street a minute, then started towards New Bedford."

Joseph Michaud, age 16, lives on Jencks street. "I saw the man in the team in the wood yard. When Mr. StAmant said he could not take him to New Bedford, he said, take me to Steep Brook then."
Description. Age 40, dark complexioned, height 5 feet 8 inches, dark clothes, white shirt, and collar, black bow.

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Alexander Cote lives on Jencks street, works at Arcand's. "A man came to the stable August 4th at 3.30 o'clock P. M. and asked me if he could be carried to New Bedford. I Said no sir."
Description. Age 29 or 30, height 5 feet 8 or 9 inches, weight 180 or 190 lbs. dark complexion, full face, dark cut away coat, no vest, no tie, an outing shirt. When he went from the barn, he went towards Alden street.


2. "Re: Witness Statements--J.M.HEAP, Pg. 40- 42"
Posted by harry on May-30th-02 at 11:47 PM
In response to Message #1.

Hope you didn't type all that Kat. The witness statements are available in Miss Lizzie's Library at the www.lizzieandrewborden.com website.


3. "Re: Witness Statements--J.M.HEAP, Pg. 40- 42"
Posted by Kat on May-31st-02 at 2:06 AM
In response to Message #2.

Your concern is touching, truly.

I did try to download from that site but met with an error.
Then I realized I probably already had it stored on this computer, and sure enough, there it was, in WORD!

I CUT-N-PASTED!!!!!  TA-DA!   Took one minute, after a few false starts.

BUT I did just type all that Bertha Manchester Anniversary transcription!

So I guess you could say "I can put one man on the moon", but NOT TWO!



 

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