1. "A Lizzie Doll We Missed"
Posted by Kat on Apr-27th-02 at 11:49 PM

From link:http://www.deaderisbetter.com/lizzieborden.shtml But she's all gone folks. Let's see if I saved her picture...

Nasty little thing isn't she!  Move over Barbie or ELSE.

Great find, Kat.

If someone really has to have this doll, there seems to be a Phase II available (?)
#68 at Yahoo.com search Lizzie Borden:

Try

http://www.goreydetails.net/show.php?alpha=81

$45

There is even one of those hideous dolls on display at the B & B.

Yech...

With the millions being sold on Ebay I wonder if there is any end in sight???

BC

Call me Andrew, but I wouldn't spend good money on those dolls.  Why don't they make a doll that at least looks like Lizzie?  Then I still wouldn't spend good money on those dolls.

They are hideous looking...they don't even come close to looking like our little Lizzie...and to think there is one of those replusive units sitting in the bookcase in Lizzie's room right now at 92 Second Street...next to her collection of personal favorite books...yech.

BC

I'm new here, "membership-wise".  Been reading & enjoying the posts for some time, just haven't had much to say.

Forgive me Lizzie-ites, but I bought the doll some months ago, before the price went up to $45.  I just thought she was 'goulishly
hee-larious'.

If I had $45 I'd buy one!

Good to meet 'cha, zoe.
Sometime if you feel like it you might want to introduce yourself on the "39 & Counting" Topic...

Don't feel you HAVE to... It's certainly not mandatory.  Just curious...kk
(can you tell?)

I was just going to ask if anyone had bought one of these dolls, apparently there's one.  Anyone else have one? 

I bought one on e-bay. My husband won't even look at it.  I, on the other hand, like it.

You Know You Are A Bordenite When You Own This Doll AND Have A Hatchet Under Your Bed!

I just saw some of these scary dolls in Tower records, no Lizzies though.  The shadowing around the eyes is soooooo poorly done, it looks like a child applied it.  It should have been more blended and soft towards the edge instead of all streaky like it was!  They had Lillith, Adam's first wife, twin girls, don't know what they were about, and one who looked like a schoolgirl.  Very weird things these dolls! 

I also have one of these dolls. I purchased one just after it was released. I LOVE her... I was thrilled to see that The B&B has one on display... I have seen the doll on Ebay.. some other stores are selling the doll for $80 plus...A small key chain is coming out as well...

Do you think they are all the same doll, or do you think some newer ones are made elsewhere or by others than yours?  (Especially if you have one of the first ones)

Who will be selling the keychain?

I too have the doll.  I think she's precious, funny, adorable.  And I didn't pay anywhere near $80.  Keychain, huh?

Hi Kat.... I e-mailed the creator of the Living Dead Dolls... and he told me the Lizzie Dolls are all the same. They have been very popular and the stores can not keep them in stock.

The keychains should be out shortly... I buy the dolls & acc... at Tower Records, of all places... They also sell them at Spencers & Hot Topic... I have two of the other little dead doll key chains and they are "cute"...If you need help in finding the key chains, by all means let me know...

Thanks.
Is there a picture of the key chains anywhere?

Do you have any other "dead Dolls" in your collection?

Yes, I do... I have 12 of the large dolls and three minis, as they are called... and also four of the doll keychains. I believe the Lizzie key chain will look exactly like the large doll...I will search and see if I can find a picture of the keychain.

My collection started with the Lizzie doll. I never heard of these dolls until then...

What are the other dolls?
I didn't know there were so many kinds!

Kat - Here is a website that specializes in The Living Dead Dolls.


http://www.deaderisbetter.com

Let me know if you have any trouble accessing the site....

The first ones seem to be *made-up* characters.

I guess what I was wondering, are there any others based on famous real personalities, like Lizzie?

From the list of the dolls.. I believe that the Lizzie doll is the only one based on a "famous"/"imfamous" person...

Wow!   A real distinction, then!
Thanks for the info.

Except for Lillith, Adam's first wife, she was cast out and then along came Eve. 

Just a note of interest... the creators and designers will be at Halloween Expo 2002, this coming weekend in New Jersey. I plan to attend. That should be interesting. I am going to have them sign my Lizzie Doll.

Sorry... Meaning The Living Dead Dolls...

This site seems to have a bunch of what are called "OOAK" Living Dead Dolls.  That's when somebody repaints and reaccessorizes the doll to make it different and "unique."  It seems to be the current trend in dolls.  Some of the ones I've seen that are made from modern fashion dolls are quite striking.  I deal in antiques, so I wouldn't dream of defacing one by doing that to it, but it's an interesting idea.

(Message last edited Oct-30th-02  10:35 AM.)

Just back from the Halloween Expo.. and there was not one Lizze Doll to be found. I met the creators and they were really nice. I asked about the Lizzie key chains and they told me that, that series will be out next year. They also told me that the Lizzie doll was one of their best sellers.

Tell what it was like?
Did you wear a costume?

This will be my last post. No, I did not wear a costume. Sorry my posts do not interest you!!!!!

Please don't go, LizzieB77!  I have been reading your posts, I just don't always respond to everything.  Because of you, I have visited the Living Dead dolls website and found it fascinating that the dolls were created by 2 guys!  So, I find it interesting to hear more of these dolls.

Have you visted the rest of the forum?  Read the other posts?  Anything to add or ask questions about?  Is this how you got interested in Lizzie Borden in the first place through the doll or was it a book, or the Legend of Lizzie Borden movie? 

If I cant say something smart-alecky I usually
don't say nothing.

Are you referring to me?
I am caught up in Halloween.
I've bought my candy.
I've gathered my clip art.
I visited the Halloween Horror Nights Web-Site.
I actually Interviewed my Air conditioning repair man on his visit there...following him around asking questions about it.
You said it was a Halloween Expo.
I pictured doll enthusists using that excuse to wear a costume.   (I guess that might be something I would do..)
I was not being facetious, if it's me you're upset at.
I ask a lot of questions of people who have a dedicated interest in things I know nothing about.
But enough about me.  If I hurt your feelings I am sorry, and confused.

Gee, I'm confused too.  I thought this topic had generated quite a bit of interest -- certainly more than some of the topics I've started.
I ran into somebody on another board the other day who thought a message board worked like a chat room -- that feedback would be immediately forthcoming.  I wonder if that's the problem here.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I never expect to get a response to what I post, although sometimes I'm happy to see that I do get one.

(Message last edited Oct-30th-02  2:03 PM.)

Are you sposed to respond to everything? What if you don't
know anything about what is being discussed? I've always thought
it was enough just to read what others were saying. You don't
have to be in on the conversation for it to be interesting.

Hi,
  About the Lizzie Doll,
I have one...altho a have lots of the LDD'S I love them, i go to the boards on DIB LDD.com..
Thought id shock you and show you this link..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1391543061&rd=1

Welcome Joanie! Boy, I need to find one of those Lizzie dolls!
Are they going to Lizzie fans or is it just regular doll collectors?

These dolls are easy to find! They dont cost much either, im thinking of getting another one to keep MIC.
Im a Living Dead Doll fan but ive taken a good shine to Lizzie Borden since i got the doll

I love that graphic on the front, the Lizzie doll with
her hands sprawled, peering out. I can't believe that one
sold for $202.50, I'm going to keep my eye out for one,
I've never seen them around here. Small town, you know.

Did I just say 'keep my eye out' in relation to Lizzie?  

The doll is wonderfull, if you didnt know, the doll comes with a bloody axe

It's absolutely amazing to me how well they sell on eBay.  There's one on there now that was just put up for auction and it already has 6 bids!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1393749835

We gotta come up with a Lizzie doll of our own.

(Message last edited Oct-31st-02  6:50 PM.)

That is a pretty good idea, where do you start?
If everyone gets part of the profits, include me.

Well, we know what outfits we would have to include with our Lizzie doll already, the Bedford cord, the Bengaline, and a pink and white stripe wrapper. 

Y'know, I've noticed that an existing doll can be found that resembles almost anyone you could name, especially females, since most dolls are patterned after females.  There's probably one that looks like Lizzie out there somewhere.  You might have to change the haircolor (easy to do with dolls).  Working with a small-scale item like a doll, it might be fairly simple to actually print some fabric to look like the Bedford cord and make up a miniature dress from what specifications we have.  I envision the bengaline outfit as having a woven, self-color design, and possibly only on the blouse, because nobody talked much about the "figure" in that fabric as they do about the design on the Bedford cord.  (Dr. Bowen described it in court as if it were a solid color.)  The fabric of that pink wrapper was really complicated!  It would be the difficult one to duplicate, although we do have an excellent description.

(Message last edited Nov-1st-02  12:39 PM.)

What about the hair color? What should it be? I
vote for red. It seems like it suits her. And, are the eyes
blue or gray? I like that the LDD Lizzie had her hair in
the curly bangs, but what did it look like it the back?
And her accessories could include a slop pail full of bloody
rags & the axe hidden under them.

Did the bloody rags put an end to the doll designing?

I did wonder how a hatchet thought to have a handle of 16" or more could possibly fit in a bedroom pail?

Lincoln strikes again.

Pull the string and it says "I am innocent" and "She is not my mother, she is my step-mother" "She's a mean good-for-nothing"
"You need not read it" (stop me somebody)

Keep going!

How about:
Emma, don't go, I swear--she is just a friend.............

The Lizzie doll's hair is a redish brown color curls at the front the back her hair is in a bun and she comes with a big axe, great detailed old fashioned boots, her dress has fur round the collar and cuffs, i'll get good close pics of my doll if you want too see details

Hi, Joanie!
I collected some pic's from the sale sites a few months ago, back when they were Phase II and $45.

Should I post as attachments here?

Love it Kim!

What was the line from the movie? If I were not a lady,
I would twist your arm Mrs. Borden, right out of it's socket,
is that right? It has been at least fifteen years since I
last saw The Legend. She was really mean in that movie.............

This popped into my head at work today and I started laughing to myself, my co-workers already think I'm odd. 

NEW, from the toymakers at PSY-CO its....

The Bizzie Lizzie doll gift set!

Now you too can own your own Bizzie Lizzie Borden doll for hours of 'bizzie' fun!  Each doll comes with a full head of curly rooted hair the color of which never looks the same, sometimes chesnut, sometimes brown, sometimes it will even look red!  Real light grayish-blue glass eyes give Bizzie Lizzie that faraway look or that see-through-you gaze!  A fully jointed body that you can pose Bizzie Lizzie in any position you would like and hands that grip, so that Bizzie Lizzie can hold all her 'Bizzie' accessories!

   The Bizzie Lizzie doll gift set comes with 3 outfits-a light blue Bedford Cord dress stained with 'paint', a pink and white striped wrapper, and a navy blue Bengaline 2 piece dress.  Plenty of dresses for a 'bizzie' day at the Borden home.  Each Bizzie Lizzie doll comes pre-dressed in a chemise, drawers, black cotton stockings, 2 petticoats (1 long, 1 short), black ankle-tie shoes, why, she even has a teeny-tiny corset of her own!  All other outfits sold seperately.

  Other accessories included in the Bizzie Lizzie gift set include:  Lizzie's own coffee cup and a cookie for her 'bizzie' breakfast, a slop pail filled with 'bizzie' bloody cloths (just tell 'em you have fleas!), 2 recalcitrant flat irons that will never get hot no matter how hard you try, 8 to 10 hankies you can pretend to 'iron' on the Bizzie Lizzie sized ironing board included, a hatchet (you never know when Bizzie Lizzie might need to chop something!), and a hat (because you never know when Bizzie Lizzie might need to go to the 'Bizzie' barn *not included* or leave the 'Bizzie' Borden house *not included* for some reason!).

Collect all the Bizzie Lizzie family and friend dolls!  Angular Andy, Adipose Abby, Ennui Emma, Justified John, Befuddled Bridget, Suspicious Seabury, Alienated Alice, and Administering Addie!

Collect all the Bizzie Lizzie play sets!  Theres the 'Bizzie' Barn play set, complete with carriage and sleigh *horse not included*, work benchs full of odds and ends including fishing weights *fishing lines not included*, a hay loft for 'Bizzie' pear eatin', a working privy in the back and even a working water faucet!  Included are pigeons with magic on-again, off-again twist off heads!  Imagine the hours of fun your Bizzie Lizzie doll could have in there!

The 'Bizzie' Borden Kitchen play set, with kitchen table and chairs, ice box that never fully gets cold, mini-magazines for Bizzie Lizzie to read, mini-mutton for the whole 'Bizzie' Borden family to eat, even a real working stove so you can heat your recalcitrant 'Bizzie' flat irons on, cook your mini-mutton in, or dispose of things you don't want others to see!  Sink room sold extra.

The 'Bizzie' Borden Sitting room play set, with easy chairs, what-not tables, mini-kerosene lamps, and mock horsehair lounge.  Imagine all the 'Bizzie' fun you can have with the whole 'Bizzie' Borden family dolls seated in here having heated family discussions or hatching 'Bizzie' plans!  Put the Angular Andy doll down for a nap on the mock horsehair sofa, lookout!  Don't put his feet up on the furniture, what would Adipose Abby say?  Sitting room comes with magic 'Bizzie' bloodstains, with a swipe of warm water the bloodstains appear!  With a swipe of cold, they disappear!  Hours of fun!

The 'Bizzie' Borden Guest Room play set, with 'Bizzie' sewing machine that really works (make some new dresses for Bizzie Lizzie, Ennui Emma and Adipose Abby), camp chair *not shown*, 'Bizzie' bed and 'Bizzie' bureau with chotckes.  Have Bizzie Lizzie and Ennui Emma use this as their sitting room and invite Alienated Alice to come and play!  Put Justified John to bed in this room and make more work for Adipose Abby. Don't just lie there on the floor Adipose Abby!  Theres work to be done!  Guest room comes with magic 'Bizzie' bloodstains same as the Sitting Room play set.  Swipe with warm water and bloodstains appear like magic!  Swipe with cold water and they disappear!

Coming soon....The Bizzie Lizzie bedroom play set, Ennui Emma's room included!

And remember, if its by PSY-CO, its fun, you know? 


(Message last edited Nov-7th-02  1:01 AM.)

OMAGOSH!

That's WONDERFUL!

"Horse not included" is where I lost it and laughed out loud.  Surprised the catz!

Susan, I am impressed! That was excellent!

Thanks!  Thought I'd give you a little glimpse into the inner workings of my head, its not such a bad place really.  Now, if we could only get this produced for real!!! 

Super job Susan!!!  You've captured the whole Lizzie story.

That's so neat, Susan. All those details that we constantly worry away at encapsulated in one piece. Great writing!

Susan, you have to seriously consider sending that into the Lizzie Borden Quarterly.  It is funny!

I agree, have you done any sketches to go along with it?

Thanks all!  As I said, this just popped into my head at work and I could hear the announcer's voice describing all the Bizzie Lizzie toys, it just cracked me up!  I'm glad you all got a kick out of it!

Harry, I didn't think about the LBQ, do you think they would have it?  I'm willing to take a chance.

Kimberly, unfortunately, no, I didn't do any sketches, but, would love to!  Just don't know if I'll have the time?  I could possibly enlist my brother's help, hes an artist too, hmmmm?  We'll see. 

Go for it!

FUNNY!! 

I definitely want the pigeons with the on-again off-again heads.

Thank you Susan!! You need to submit this to Maynard Bertolet. His email address is in the LBQ: Bertolet@msn.com

If he passes, please consider the LBVML. I love it!!!

Sure, I'll take a whack at it, thanks!  Definitely, if he passes, its yours, Stefani!  I'm glad people got a laugh out of it, it still tickles my funnybone.  I just wish I could share the cheesy male announcer's voice that I hear, its the cherry on the cake, it really makes the piece. 

Here you go, Stefani, one headless pigeon coming up!


Just in case you're wondering, the bird is not really headless, its a breed of pigeon called Bokhara and it appears to be headless. 

Does the announcer sound like the voice from RONKO who tries to sell us a  "MOULIE"?
You know..."Fits In Any Drawer!"
"But WAIT!  There's More..."
???????

Exactly!!!  That overly enthusiastic type of voice, it sounds like every word they speak is in CAPITALS!!!  Think back to toy commercials from the late sixties, early seventies.  You'd have their spiel stuck in your head for the rest of the day, which I guess is the whole idea behind advertising.    The Moulie and Pocket Fisherman, oh, and don't forget Ginzu Knives! 

"The Moulie Drawer" became a big joke in our house.  We had lived here at least 10 years by the time of those commercials, and we had really settled in.  With 5 family members remaining there never was an extra drawer, unless we bought a new piece of furniture.
When our youngest brother married and bought a house, we all went over to see it.
The first thing I did was go to the kitchen, pull out an EMPTY drawer and said" OH!  LOOK you have a MOULIE drawer!"
Forever after an empty drawer was called that...

I only have three drawers in my kitchen, not enough room for a MOULIE drawer.    But, I do have plenty of cabinet space!