1. "I Remember Brooklyn"
Posted by harry on Oct-14th-02 at 11:09 PM

Not the one in N.Y. but the Brooklyn section of the city of Charlotte, N.C.

This website is not about the Bordens but it does give a marvelous summary of what ordinary life was like in her time.  Part 2 is of special interest. I recognized a lot of similarities.  In part two they mentioned cleaning knives and spoons with wood ashes.  Now where did I hear that before.

http://www.cmstory.org/exhibit/plum/chapters.htm


(Message last edited Oct-14th-02  11:30 PM.)

What a charming site! I've never seen it before, but I
just love hearing people's old stories.

Harry, thank you so much for the link to the thoroughly enjoyable read.  They even had their own Liz, she sounds somehow like ours oddly enough!

http://www.cmstory.org/exhibit/plum/liz.htm

Oh, I love this.  It's a real nostalgia piece for me, although I'm not old enough to remember horse-drawn ice wagons.  The part about building houses for the frogs is especially interesting, because my friends and I also did this.  We called them "toady-frog houses."
(Mostly I did this at my grandparents' house in North Carolina.)  I told my husband about it, and he actually seems to get angry when I mention it.  I guess he doesn't like to think my background is so countrified.  The simplest things used to amuse us kids.  We didn't have any video games.

Brooklyn means "little brook". There is a Brooklyn section as part of Oakland Calif, and a suburb of Minneapolis (Jesse Ventura was in his second term as mayour when elected governor).
As he said in that TV movie "I wasn't the first actor to go into politics".

Ya know, I've seen several little girls in the local
newspaper named Brooklyn. I'm always quite horrified
at what baby names people can come up with.

On football today, there was an excellent player, a man of color, named "Simian".  I thought, please don't name your kid that!
I suppose this falls under the catagory:  "What Were They Thinking?"

Possibly it was just what Norman Mailer referred to as "prairie spelling."  They may have meant to name him "Simeon," which actually is a masculine name.  I used to have a part-time job (in addition to my full-time one) keeping books and doing the payroll for a small business.  One of the employees was named "Lucous" (I'll leave out the last name to protect his identity).  The boss and I always referrd to him as "Lucas;" however, I later learned that the correct pronunciation of his name was "Luscious."  If I were in his shoes, I think I'd just as soon have prople mispronounce my name!

I had a student named Lucious. I thought it was pronounced Lucas too! He told me no, it is Lucious. I really liked that guy.

I met a kid whose name was Nefarious. Poor kid.

And a friend of mine read that there is a slew of kids named Shithead, but they pronounce it shith-ead. Makes for a crazy first day of class, doesn't it?

My personal favorite baby names are from a woman on the
Oprah Winfrey show years back, she had twin students named
Regina and Vagina. I've never forgotten that and I swear
it has been at least ten years.

Susan, it is your turn. Don't you have a baby name to share?

I personally like the name Lizzie & I prefer it to Lizbeth or even Elizabeth. But I don't much care for her middle name Andrew. I actually have an Emma in my life, my aunt Emma Jean and I have a
five year old cousin named Abby. One of my cousin's had a wife named Emma & everyone did indeed call her Emmer. See, I got back on Lizzie! So to speak.

Oh dear!  Well, at least "Vagina" is a nice womanly name!  It really doesn't sound all that bad, if we didn't know what it meant.  I used to have a friend who claimed someone in his family had interned at a country hospital down south.  Some of the maternity patients had so many children that they couldn't think of any more names, so they let the interns name the babies.  The interns came up with names like "Fetus" and (for twins) "Syphilis" and "Gonorrhea," which were pronounced "Sif-PHYL-lis" and "Gun-OH-Ria."  I had a secretary who was expecting a baby and announced one day that if she had a girl, she planned to name the poor thing "LaTrina."  Luckily she had a boy and called him "Sean."  (No, she didn't pronounce it "Seen.")

There was a new on-the-spot reporter today on the local news at 6 p.m. and her name was Crystal Candy.  Don't know if she was married.

Chlamydia!  I used to work with a woman who had worked with this woman who had named her poor daughter just that, Chlamydia!  With the dozens of baby books available to all I just can't see how people can curse these poor children with these heinous names! 

I don't know which is worse, sticking a child with
a dreary name or giving it some hyper-fancy sounding
junk name. Of course I don't know how anybody ever
picks one, I'm not sure I would name a child Kimberly,
I like it fine for me, it has sex appeal but it isn't
really a bimbo name. I don't spose.

This is from http://www.kabalarians.com/gkh/your.htm#links .

'Lizzie'

As Lizzie you seek change, travel, new opportunities, and new challenges. Your active, restless nature demands action and you dislike system and monotony. As you are versatile and capable, you could do any job well, although you would not like to do menial tasks. Having considerable vision, you could be adept at formulating new, more effective ways of doing things. You could organize the work of others, though in your impatience to see the job done efficiently, you would likely step right in and do it yourself.

You could work well in sales and promotion, and would not be afraid to risk a gamble as the name gives you much self-confidence. You do not find contentment in the routine tasks and responsibilities that are associated with home and family or with administrative detail in the business world, so you have to guard against frustration and even moods of depression over your personal responsibilities. The restlessness this name creates could find an outlet in caustic, irritable expression. Also, the intensity of your nature could result in tension in the solar plexus causing stomach trouble and, because you take your responsibilities seriously you could experience much worry.

Wow, thanks, Kimberly, that was too cool!  Just checked my name and its pretty right on, scary! 

Oh man! I just checked and Vagina & Chlamydia are
listed as real names! That means more people are going to choose
them! Argggh!

George Carlin jokes about the preppy names of the recent past:
Crystal, Heather, Tiffany,Courtney.

Then says:
"I can just hear them now, in the Nursing Home:  'Tiffany dear, here is your Tylenol', as an 80 year old woman shuffles forward...

I was talking to a friend about his bun-in-the-oven & I told
him not to name it a white trash name, he said he would never
do that, I said people always stick their kids with bimbo names
like Tiffany & Heather, he got very quiet, I found out later
that his baby's mother has a daughter named Heather! I
was quite pleased that I insulted her without even trying!

I have/had a distant relative (really don't know if she's still alive) who would be pushing 100 if still around.  Her name (honest) is Tiffany Rich.
I guess the bad-name gene can crop up in any family.  My first husband's surname was "Pate," and one had to be careful about suitable first names to go with that one.  We were friendly with an unrelated couple who had the same surname.  They had naively named their daughter "Constance." 

So, what kind of name is "Kimberley"? Is it in the Bible?
[I'm sure its NOT a saint's name!]

(Message last edited Oct-23rd-02  8:35 PM.)

What's the matter? Do you have a Heather?

And, I only have one E------Kimberly. It is English &
it means noble or royal. I was reading a book on names & it said
that in the 1970`s it became popular to give girls names that used
to be considered boys names. And mine was included in that group,
it was said to have been a sissy-sounding boys name. I have heard of men named Kim but never a Kimberly.


You know, I actually haven't heard any saints named anything
that I would trade my kimberly for.


And, my great-great-great grandfather was named Zephaniah, I love
that one. And my great grandfather's first & middle names were
George & Washington. Pretty cool.

(Message last edited Oct-24th-02  8:21 PM.)