1. "1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by kimberly on Feb-6th-03 at 9:54 PM
This link is for the "1860 Census Index Bristol County
Massachusetts Fall River" it may have been posted already,
but here it is again:
http://svr1.marketrends.net/mthome/census/1860fallriver.html
In addition to a lot of Borden's they had tons of Harrington's.
BORDEN, AMOS
BORDEN, ANDREW J.
BORDEN, ARBA
BORDEN, BAILEY H.
BORDEN, CHARLES S.
BORDEN, DANIEL
BORDEN, DURFEE
BORDEN, EARLE
BORDEN, EDITTE
BORDEN, ELIZA
BORDEN, GEORGE
BORDEN, GRACE
BORDEN, JEFFERSON
BORDEN, JOHN H.
BORDEN, JOHN H.
BORDEN, JOSEPH
BORDEN, JOSEPH
BORDEN, JOSEPH E.
BORDEN, LUCY
BORDEN, LUTHER E.
BORDEN, MAJOR
BORDEN, MARY S.
BORDEN, MELVIN
BORDEN, NATHAN D.
BORDEN, NATHANIEL B.
BORDEN, P. D.
BORDEN, PARKER
BORDEN, PATIENCE W.
BORDEN, PELEG
BORDEN, REBECCA C.
BORDEN, RICK
BORDEN, ROBERT
BORDEN, RUTH P.
BORDEN, SADWICK
BORDEN, SAMUEL
BORDEN, SARAH
BORDEN, SUSANNAH
BORDEN, THOMAS J.
BORDEN, WILLIAM
BORDEN, WILLIAM
2. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Kat on Feb-7th-03 at 2:05 AM In response to Message #1.
That's funny--, as in Coincidence.
Just yesterday I was looking at the C-D of the Fall River Directory, 1859!
Yes, there were 76 Bordens listed there.
Thanks for the Link!
That site shows 40.
I believe Sadwick should be Ladowick.(or Lawdwick)
I mention him because he is Andrew's uncle and lived next door at the "Kelly" address, #68, before Andrew and family moved to Second Street..
(Message last edited Feb-7th-03 2:16 AM.)
3. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by harry on Feb-7th-03 at 7:50 AM In response to Message #1.
The thing I noticed about the list was that Emma was not included. Does the report mention that it excludes children?
The reason I ask is that Emma was away at school at some time in her life as she testified to in her Inquest statement:
Q. Have you lived at home most of the time?
A. Yes Sir.
Q. Have you ever lived away from home?
A. I was away at school about a year and a half.
Q. That was sometime ago?
A. Yes Sir.
We've never been able to find any further information on this statement. She would have turned 9 in 1860. Kat, was she, or children, mentioned in the 1859 listing?
Rebello also mentions that there is a reference to Emma's absence in the Knowlton papers (page 410). I do not have the Knowlton papers so I would appreciate if someone could cite that reference.
4. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Edisto on Feb-7th-03 at 11:09 AM In response to Message #2.
Good grief! Yet another misspelling of poor "Ladwick" (or whatever) Borden's name. How many ways are there, I wonder?
5. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Kashesan on Feb-7th-03 at 11:34 AM In response to Message #1.
Love how the first two are Amos and Andy-
6. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by kimberly on Feb-7th-03 at 1:00 PM In response to Message #5.
I never noticed that!
7. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by kimberly on Feb-7th-03 at 1:05 PM In response to Message #3.
There should be photocopies of the real census reports for then ---
I have the ones for my family going back that far. It usually
includes any servants or farm hands employed by the family also.
8. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Kat on Feb-7th-03 at 10:21 PM In response to Message #3.
Knowlton Papers, pg. 410 is the Glossary A section:
"BORDEN, MISS EMMA LENORA 1851 - 1927: born in Fall River, Massachusetts, daughter of Andrew Jackson and Sarah Anthony (Morse) Borden. Her early education was received in her native city as well as at a female seminary elsewhere. Twelve years old at the time of her mother's death, she vowed at her deathbed to take care of her younger sister, Lizzie. She grew to be a woman of a retiring nature.
At a house party in Fairhaven, Massachusetts, on August 4, 1892, she returned home immediately upon receiving a telegram informing her of the tragedy within her family. Her support for Miss Lizzie A. Borden throughout her incarceration and trial was unfaltering and her belief in her sister's innocence persisted throughout her life. Following a falling-out between the two siblings in 1904, she left Maplecroft, the home on French Street in Fall River they had shared for ten years. She relocated first to Providence, Rhode Island, and then to Newmarket, New Hampshire. She made her home in the latter locality, living under an assumed name until her death."
9. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by harry on Feb-7th-03 at 10:31 PM In response to Message #8.
Thanks Kat, that's interesting. The line "Her early education was received in her native city as well as at a female seminary elsewhere." is especially so.
Her absence in the 1860 census may mean she was away at that time. Did you have a chance to check the 1859 one yet?
10. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Kat on Feb-7th-03 at 10:53 PM In response to Message #9.
The City Directory of 1859, I believe must be like a phone book, sort-of. That's what the pages look like --plus it even has ADS!
I think it is all adults, as they mostly have occupations.
It says on the first page:
"Names of the Citizens, City Officers & A Business Directory
(and Almanac)"
It seems the census would count EVERYONE, whether away at school or not.
Why would my list have more Borden's than a census I just don't understand...?
Didn't we speculate that Emma could have gone to school in or near Chicago, as the Borden's took a trip out there when Lizzie was (quite a ) little girl?
11. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by harry on Feb-7th-03 at 11:11 PM In response to Message #10.
I don't know if they would count her if she was a year around boarder in another city or state. What the rules were in 1860 I have no idea.
You're right, the city directory would not show her. And Lizzie was just born in 1860 and depending when the census was taken may or may not have existed.
Yes, we did speculate on the Borden trip to Chicago and Lizzie's involvement in a Sunday school. Emma would have been more of age during that trip to be in a seminary.
12. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by kimberly on Feb-7th-03 at 11:13 PM In response to Message #8.
I wonder what that little spat could have really been about?
Would she really have moved out just because of a party? Lizzie
and Nance had been friends for awhile before that.....
13. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Kat on Feb-7th-03 at 11:24 PM In response to Message #11.
I still don't understand how a City Directory of 1859 could have more Bordens listed than the census a year later?
You'd think it would be the other way around.
Something to note, maybe?
The census looks transcribed whereas the Directory is a photocopy of the original document.
14. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by kimberly on Feb-7th-03 at 11:56 PM In response to Message #13.
The main page includes other years & the links also feature
other cities including Fall River:
http://www.marketrends.net/mthome/census/
http://www.marketrends.net/mthome/census/1850census.html
http://www.marketrends.net/mthome/census/1850fairhaven.html
http://www.marketrends.net/mthome/census/1850fallriver.html
BORDEN ABBY
BORDEN ABEL
BORDEN ABRAHAM
BORDEN ABRAHAM
BORDEN ADAMS
BORDEN ALMIRA
BORDEN AMAS
BORDEN ARBA
BORDEN BAILEY
BORDEN BATH*
BORDEN BETH*
BORDEN CHARLES
BORDEN CHARLES
BORDEN CLARISSA
BORDEN DURFEE
BORDEN EARL
BORDEN ELISABETH
BORDEN ELIZA
BORDEN FREDERIC B.
BORDEN GEORGE A.
BORDEN GEORGE G.
BORDEN GEORGE 2ND
BORDEN ISAAC
BORDEN ISAAC
BORDEN ISRAEL
BORDEN JAB
BORDEN JAMES
BORDEN JAMES A.
BORDEN JEFFERSON
BORDEN JOHN
BORDEN JOHN H.
BORDEN JOHN L.
BORDEN JOSEPH
BORDEN JOSEPH
BORDEN JOSEPH
BORDEN LADRICK*
BORDEN LARENS*
BORDEN LEANDER
BORDEN LEPHEN*
BORDEN MAJOR
BORDEN MARTHA
BORDEN MELVIN
BORDEN NATHANEL B.*
BORDEN PHILLIP S.
BORDEN RHODA
BORDEN RICHARD
BORDEN SADRICK*
BORDEN SAMUEL
BORDEN SETH
BORDEN SIMION
BORDEN SPENCER
BORDEN STEPHEN
BORDEN STEPHEN
BORDEN STEPHEN*
BORDEN THOMAS
BORDEN WILLIAM
BORDEN WILLIAM N.
15. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by Kat on Feb-8th-03 at 2:04 AM In response to Message #14.
OOO! Edisto!
Another spelling of LADRICK!
16. "Re: 1860 Fall River Census Index"
Posted by rays on Feb-8th-03 at 12:43 PM In response to Message #13.
Didn't AR Brown write that originally part of Fall River was in Rhode Island, until the state border was changed circa 1860(?). Or the city limits changed? That could explain it. Its not obvious.
(Message last edited Feb-8th-03 12:44 PM.)
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