Nance O'Neil photos
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- Harry
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Nance O'Neil photos
Ran across some photos of Nance O'Neil. Some of these were new to me.
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pcards/0 ... 0128.shtml
http://www.statelibrary.vic.gov.au/misc ... 3286.shtml
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pcards/0 ... 0127.shtml
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pcards/0 ... 000137.jpg
http://digital.library.ucla.edu/apam/se ... a&SCALE=.2
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pcards/0 ... 0128.shtml
http://www.statelibrary.vic.gov.au/misc ... 3286.shtml
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pcards/0 ... 0127.shtml
http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/pcards/0 ... 000137.jpg
http://digital.library.ucla.edu/apam/se ... a&SCALE=.2
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Nance O'Neil Pictures
Have we seen these?
From Harry's new Search Engine (2 pages!):
http://alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs= ... eil%22&o=0
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From Harry's new Search Engine (2 pages!):
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http://www.acn.net.au/articles/theatre/
The above Australian Government article on the history of Australian theatre says:
"Nance O'Neill starred in a Melbourne production of Ibsen's 'Hedda Gabler' in 1900."
The above Australian Government article on the history of Australian theatre says:
"Nance O'Neill starred in a Melbourne production of Ibsen's 'Hedda Gabler' in 1900."
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Today I got my copy of Frank Spiering's book Lizzie. I thumbed through it and will read it later. Two quotes did stick out for me. This first one I don't quite understand what Nance is talking about. Here's the quote. It's on page 212 and Nance is talking about why she moved from California to New England:
" to study them...I've got to lay bare one of the real secrets of my life-Every evening when the train came bringing me home from Boston, the one long street I had to walk to reach home was lined with the 'blue-nosed' inhabitants. Hundreds and hundreds of them were lined up inside gates to 'see that actress woman pass.' And some of their audible comments did not endear any of them to me. So one day I gathered my pets and belongings and moved back to the hotel in Boston. I had not studied them, while they had torn me to shreds."
Now is she talking about how New Englanders simply couldn't deal with an "actress" per se or is she alluding to the fact that many of them might have know she was the "actress hanging out with Lizzie"?
Second quote:
"We are rebels because those who govern us often, blindly, no doubt betray us. The unloved woman is usually just such, the victim of some man too stupid to know the difference between heaven and earth."
Now, I read that and to a degree I can't help but see a little bit of Lizzie in that quote. The idea of Lizzie being Andrew's victim.
I would love to have been the fly on the wall and heard what Lizzie and Nance talked about in private.
" to study them...I've got to lay bare one of the real secrets of my life-Every evening when the train came bringing me home from Boston, the one long street I had to walk to reach home was lined with the 'blue-nosed' inhabitants. Hundreds and hundreds of them were lined up inside gates to 'see that actress woman pass.' And some of their audible comments did not endear any of them to me. So one day I gathered my pets and belongings and moved back to the hotel in Boston. I had not studied them, while they had torn me to shreds."
Now is she talking about how New Englanders simply couldn't deal with an "actress" per se or is she alluding to the fact that many of them might have know she was the "actress hanging out with Lizzie"?
Second quote:
"We are rebels because those who govern us often, blindly, no doubt betray us. The unloved woman is usually just such, the victim of some man too stupid to know the difference between heaven and earth."
Now, I read that and to a degree I can't help but see a little bit of Lizzie in that quote. The idea of Lizzie being Andrew's victim.
I would love to have been the fly on the wall and heard what Lizzie and Nance talked about in private.
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DWilly--
I don't think Nance's remarks had anything to do with Lizzie. I think she came to New England to research the Yankee character to enhance her acting.
The old Yankees, however, subscribed to the notion that all actors were loose and immoral people and looked down their blue-blooded (meaning aristocratic) noses at her. In other words, they were snobs and snubbed Nance.
What Nance had in common with Lizzie here is the fact that Lizzie, because of her own notoriety, was also looked-down-upon and snubbed.
It's not a good feeling to live in an environment where everyone thinks they are better than you.
I don't think Nance's remarks had anything to do with Lizzie. I think she came to New England to research the Yankee character to enhance her acting.
The old Yankees, however, subscribed to the notion that all actors were loose and immoral people and looked down their blue-blooded (meaning aristocratic) noses at her. In other words, they were snobs and snubbed Nance.
What Nance had in common with Lizzie here is the fact that Lizzie, because of her own notoriety, was also looked-down-upon and snubbed.
It's not a good feeling to live in an environment where everyone thinks they are better than you.
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Maybe I am over analyzing, but has anyone ever taken notice of the names of the movies Nance played a role in? There seems to be an over all theme of sorts there. While not all of her movies fit into this theme, a good many do. Could this have been something Nance did subconciously? I've also read the plotlines and reviews for most of these movies, and find the theme carries over in many of them.
1932 Okay, America!
1932 Westward Passage
1932 False Faces
1931 Transgression
1931 Secret Service
1931 Resurrection
1931 A Woman of Experience
1931 The Good Bad Girl
1930 The Rogue Song
1930 The Eyes of the World
1930 The Florodora Girl
1930 Call of the Flesh
1930 Ladies of Leisure
1930 The Lady of Scandal
1930 Cimarron
1929 His Glorious Night
1915 Kreutzer Sonata
1912 The Count of Monte Cristo
http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/f ... 220487&mod
1932 Okay, America!
1932 Westward Passage
1932 False Faces
1931 Transgression
1931 Secret Service
1931 Resurrection
1931 A Woman of Experience
1931 The Good Bad Girl
1930 The Rogue Song
1930 The Eyes of the World
1930 The Florodora Girl
1930 Call of the Flesh
1930 Ladies of Leisure
1930 The Lady of Scandal
1930 Cimarron
1929 His Glorious Night
1915 Kreutzer Sonata
1912 The Count of Monte Cristo
http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/f ... 220487&mod
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A lot of actresses of her day were pretty much type cast into certain roles or story themes. Mary Pickford hated playing young girls but that was where the money was. Theda Bara, Mable Norman, Clara Bow, Florence Lawrence, Louise Brooks and others all had their main groove they stayed in. I doubt Nance was any different.
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Maybe nobody sees it but me. I'm aware of how an actress could be type cast. I've been interested in actors and actresses from the 30's and 40's, and Hollywood at that time in general, for many years. It's a really fascinating age in Hollywood. Much more facinating to me than anything going on there now.
On stage she was known as a great tragedian actress. Some people believe this is what originally drew Lizzie to Nance in the first place. That she identified so well with tragedy and controversy. I'm wondering if this was somehow subconcious on Nance's part, or wholly intentional. Did she choose these movies by title and/or plot subconciously?Or maybe I just haven't been getting enough sleep lately
Ladies of Leisure
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?ta ... id=1064553
Kreutzer Sonata
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kreutzer_Sonata
The Rogue Song
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rogue_Song
The Good Bad Girl
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?ta ... id=1060480
A Woman of Experience
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?ta ... id=1080690
Resurrection
http://www.vh1.com/movies/movie/71763/plot.jhtml
False Faces
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=in ... 30&intl=us
On stage she was known as a great tragedian actress. Some people believe this is what originally drew Lizzie to Nance in the first place. That she identified so well with tragedy and controversy. I'm wondering if this was somehow subconcious on Nance's part, or wholly intentional. Did she choose these movies by title and/or plot subconciously?Or maybe I just haven't been getting enough sleep lately
Ladies of Leisure
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?ta ... id=1064553
Kreutzer Sonata
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kreutzer_Sonata
The Rogue Song
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rogue_Song
The Good Bad Girl
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?ta ... id=1060480
A Woman of Experience
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?ta ... id=1080690
Resurrection
http://www.vh1.com/movies/movie/71763/plot.jhtml
False Faces
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=in ... 30&intl=us
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