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Last visit

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:38 am
by AgathaBasset
I wonder if anyone knows the answer to this. Does anyone know when was the last time John Morse visited the Bordens?

Re: Last visit

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:42 pm
by camgarsky4
Per his inquest testimony, he visited the Borden's around July 10th. He provides more details about that and previous visits on pages 95 & 96. You can find the inquest testimony on the 'free' site, "Lizzie Borden Virtual Library" in the primary source documents.

Re: Last visit

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:46 pm
by AgathaBasset
Thank you! I just found the inquest on Lizzie Borden audio podcast. It was interesting listening to them, especially Dr. Bowen. But I wished Lizzie would slow down with the “sir” every two seconds. lol

Last visit

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:12 pm
by Kat
AgathaBasset wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:46 pm Thank you! I just found the inquest on Lizzie Borden audio podcast. It was interesting listening to them, especially Dr. Bowen. But I wished Lizzie would slow down with the “sir” every two seconds. lol
Hola!
May I ask about the podcast? Is it a recreation of the Inquest of Lizzie with voice actors?
Did you find it helpful, or did you think the director skewed the emphasis?
Sounds interesting…do you have a link, possibly, or search terms? Thanks!

Last visit

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:08 pm
by Kat
https://lizzieandrewborden.com/chronolo ... 9-1892.htm
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I pulled out all the visits we know of from testimony of John V. Morse coming to the area around Fall River. I know it was more info than requested, but, oh well… :wink:

July 5, 1833
John Vinnicum Morse born, in Fall River, Mass. (Sarah Borden’s brother, and uncle to Emma and Lizzie).

1855
John Morse moves west to Minn. to live with his brother William. (stays 1 year, then moves to ILL. in 1856 / stays 14 years / 1869 moves to Iowa. Throughout this time, he spends summers and winters in New England area, visiting).

1865
John V. Morse visits Bordens

1875
John Morse lives with Bordens one year.

1877
John Morse visits Bordens.

1885
John Morse visits Bordens.

Oct., 1891
Morse moves from R.I. to South Dartmouth to live with old friends Isaac Davis, and his son, William A. Davis. (butchers and slaughterhouse owners).

1892, end of June
Morse visits

July 10, 1892
Morse visits.

August 3, 1893
Morse visits
1:30 - 3 p.m.
Morse and Andrew talk.

3 – 4 p.m.
Morse leaves for the Swansea farm.

8:30 p.m.
Morse returns.

10:00 p.m.
Andrew and Morse retire.

Re: Last visit

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 1:05 am
by Catbooks
Great information, Kat.

I wasn't aware John Morse lived with the Bordens for a year. Lizzie would have been 15 at the time, so she would have had the opportunity to know him well. Before this, I'd assumed she was only rarely in contact with him, but that Emma knew him much better.

Re: Last visit

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 12:53 pm
by AgathaBasset
This is such great info, thanks so much!
I enjoyed listening to the voice actors read the inquest, Lizzie did sound a little annoyed, so maybe that was the actor but overall it was good.

Re: Last visit

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:48 pm
by camgarsky4
Agatha -- did the reenactment take into consideration the various breaks, like between days, in the recording?