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I found an Innocent Wardell, daughter of William but it shows her with two marriages, neither of the Richard Borden. Besides, she is born way too late.
BORN TOO LATE
The family is tied to the Borden family, though.

Husband's Name
William WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-B9) Pedigree
Born: 13 Jun 1702 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
Married: 13 Apr 1732 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
Father:
Mother:
Wife's Name
Elizabeth BORDEN (AFN:R1HS-LS) Pedigree
Born: 7 Apr 1708 Place: Swansea, Bristol, Mass.
Married: 13 Apr 1732 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
Father: John BORDEN, JR. (AFN:FVBC-DT) Family
Mother: Sarah EARL (AFN:FVBC-M2)
Children
1. Sex Name
F Patience WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-P6) Pedigree
Born: 1746 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
2. Sex Name
M Joseph WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-8X) Pedigree
Born: 1851 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
3. Sex Name
M John WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-7R) Pedigree
Born: Feb 1748 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
4. Sex Name
F Ruth WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-0K) Pedigree
Born: 13 Apr 1732 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
5. Sex Name
M Borden WORDELL (AFN:PL8K-GJ) Pedigree
Born: May 1744 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
Died: 1816 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
6. Sex Name
M Gershom WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-LN) Pedigree
Born: 20 May 1740 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
7. Sex Name
F Sarah WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-5F) Pedigree
Born: 8 Jun 1742 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
8. Sex Name
F Ruth WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-H5) Pedigree
Born: 23 Jul 1738 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
Died: 1812 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
9. Sex Name
F Lydia WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-94) Pedigree
Born: Sep 1753 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
10. Sex Name
M William WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-DM) Pedigree
Born: 23 Dec 1734 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
11. Sex Name
F Innocent WORDELL (AFN:R1HR-2W) Pedigree
Born: 23 Dec 1734 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri

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FOUND HER!

Husband's Name
Richard BORDEN (AFN:9M2P-V6) Pedigree
Born: 25 Oct 1671 Place: Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: 12 Jul 1732 Place: Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island
Married: Place:
Father: John BORDEN (AFN:9M2P-XJ) Family
Mother: Mary EARLE (AFN:2F6N-X5)
Wife's Name
Innocent WODELL (WARDELL) (AFN:9M2P-WC) Pedigree
Born: 26 Dec 1674 Place: Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: Aft 1718 Place: Portsmith, Newport, Rhode Island
Buried: Place: , , Rhode Island
Married: Place:
Father: Gershom WOODELL (AFN:9M2Q-N9) Family
Mother: Mary TRIPP (AFN:9M2Q-PG)
Children
1. Sex Name
F Mary BORDEN (AFN:FVBC-4G) Pedigree
Born: 29 Jan 1700 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: 23 Jul 1786 Place: , Newport, Rhode Island
2. Sex Name
M Samuel BORDEN (AFN:9M2P-ST) Pedigree
Born: 25 Oct 1705 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: 1 Sep 1778 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Ri
3. Sex Name
F Sarah BORDEN (AFN:FVBC-1X) Pedigree
Born: 31 Jul 1694 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: 30 Jul 1694 Place: Age 2 Weeks
4. Sex Name
F Rebecca BORDEN (AFN:8Q4P-S7) Pedigree
Born: 18 Aug 1712 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: 30 Apr 1752 Place: , Newport, Rhode Island
5. Sex Name
M Joseph BORDEN (AFN:8Q4P-R2) Pedigree
Born: 4 Nov 1702 Place: Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts
6. Sex Name
M Thomas BORDEN (AFN:FVBC-39) Pedigree
Born: 8 Dec 1697 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island
Died: Apr 1740 Place: Tiverton, Bristol, Mass
7. Sex Name
M John BORDEN (AFN:FVBC-24) Pedigree
Born: 24 Dec 1695 Place: Tiverton, Newport, Rhode Island

All this from the LDS site so should be subjected to intense scrutiny.
But at least we have parents names and a birthdate.

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WOW..........What's this???????????

Innocent WORDELL (AFN: R1HX-Z8) Pedigree
Sex: F Family
Event(s):
Birth: 26 Dec 1674
Tiverton, Newport, Ri
Parents:
Marriage(s):
Spouse: John CORNELL (AFN: R1HX-X3)


Here is a Pedrigree Resource file from the LDS. Note who submitted it!!!

Innocent WODELL (WARDELL) Compact Disc #53 Pin #568627 (AFN: 9M2P-WC)
Sex: F
Event(s):
Birth: 26 Dec 1674 Place: Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island
Death: aft 1718 Place: Portsmith, Newport, Rhode Island
Burial: Place: , , Rhode Island
Parents:
Father: Gershom WOODELL Disc #53 Pin #568783
Mother: Mary TRIPP Disc #53 Pin #568784
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Peleg SHEARMAN Disc #53 Pin #570677
Marriage: 10 Sep 1730 Place:

Spouse: Richard BORDEN Disc #53 Pin #568626
Marriage: Place:

Spouse: CORNELL Disc #53 Pin #570678
Marriage: Place:

Notes and Sources:
Notes: None
Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 53
Submitter:
Robert DURFEE
152 E 300 N Manti UT 84642

Her grandfather was also married to an Anthony

John TRIPP Compact Disc #53 Pin #569076 (AFN: 7TSV-QS)
Sex: M
Event(s):
Birth: 6 Feb 1610 Place: Covetown,, Lincolnshire, England
Christening: 1638 Place: Portsmouth, Newport, RI
Death: 28 Oct 1678 Place: Poss, Newport, Rhode Island, England
Burial: 28 Oct 1678 Place: Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island
Parents:
Father: John TRIPP Disc #53 Pin #569474
Mother: Isabell MOSES Disc #53 Pin #569475
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Martha SHERIFF Disc #53 Pin #571171
Marriage: abt 1635 Place: Of Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island

Spouse: Mary PAINE Disc #53 Pin #569077
Marriage: 1638 Place: Newport, Portsmouth, Rhode Island

Spouse: Susannah ANTHONY Disc #53 Pin #571172
Marriage: 7 Sep 1665 Place: Portsmouth, Newprt, RI




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FROM: Westport Haunted House is no more....
I took a special road trip out to Westport after our conversations about the haunted house on Old Bedford Road in Westport.

The reason I haven't heard anything about it is because it is no longer standing. I was shocked to find a pre-fabricated commercial building on the sight (commercial space available) surrounded by a black-top parking lot. When the house went down and the building went up I do not know.

The boulder on the grounds where people claimed to see ghosts has been removed. The one point of interest is that the trees and brush which used to obscure the old cemetery from view are gone. The cemetery did indeed jut into the former haunted property. Its entrance is on Sanford Road.

The graves include Alice Sampson and Everett Gifford, some barely legible stones with the name Pettey, a pair of Macombers, and the balance of the graves (a good number) are all members of the Wordell family. The last member of the family to be buried there was in 1954. The legible stones go back to the 1850s with some earlier, illegible stones.

Perhaps there were just too many spooky stories about the house to ever make it a desirable place to live...
Here's the commercial building (and don't I have a cute Mini?):
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/ ... 0_0326.jpg

This part of the cemetery was obscured by shrubs when the house was here (and don't I have a cute Mini?):
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/ ... 0_0328.jpg

And here's the Wordell family cemetery in Westport:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/ ... 0_0327.jpg

And don't I have a cute Mini?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/ ... adream.jpg
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Maybe it wasn't the house that was haunted! Maybe they were just out for a stroll from the cemetery next door! I'd be careful about parking a "cute mini" there. They might mistake it for the old rock and go for a ride with you :lol:
Great pictures, Cynthia.
Now tell us if Innocent's parents, Gershom and Mary are buried there! Are there any Cornell's buried there? Like John?

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Gramma, in your "Wow! What's this...?" post, is that stating Innocent had 3 husbands?
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Great pictures Cynthia! Thank you!
And yes your psychedelic mini is very nice!!
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The infamous Cornell's stones were in a video on the Bordens which was on recently but was not new. It might have been The Creepiest Places? They used the Cornell relationship and the-man-who-was-executed-because-of-a- dream story in the show. It was about a 10 minute segment. Does anyone remember?

Stefani has photos that were the same as the gravestones in the show. I recognized them. I'm not sure where the place is- Stef has the pictures. But if you have the video, they are there.
I think it is in R.I.

So are we now saying these Wardells which I had found (but cannot recreate because of my comp-crash and the loss of a subscription site as well)- in Shrewsbury NJ are not Innocent's family at all?
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Personally, I have always associated Cornell with Rhode Island and I'm pretty sure Wordell is Portsmouth Colony. But what the heck, I like the Innocent Cornell line in Lizzie's family.

I've always wondered if there was a tie to Sarah Cornell, too. You know
the reputable branches of a family aren't going to embrace a unmarried, pregnant, murder victim.

http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Univers ... orems.html

I was just looking at one site, and it seems some early Cornells were Cornwells.
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I thought those Cornells included Sarah too. If they wanted Lizzie so bad and that guy who was prosecuted because of a dream, I thought they also claimed Sarah.
I mean, I think they do.

Personally, I'm not into the connection, but you probably can tell.
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Yes, Kat!
Three husbands! If she married Peleg Shearman in 1730 there may be a solid record of that and her death date should be after 1730. Note the person doing the research on this is a DURFEE!
Two and three marriages are not uncommon as most women were dependent on men for their sustenence. If a man died or left her then she remarried, especially if she did not inherit enough to sustain her. Men left with small children remarried, usually fairly soon, to have someone to care for the kids and the house (something most of them were not very good at and had no interest in doing)
Like I said......this is the LDS and needs to be sourced. The submitter's name and address is right there.

You are not necessarily wrong about the Cornells and Wardells in NJ being related. Richard Borden (the immigrant I believe) and a number of people from Portsmouth, RI went to Shrewsbury, NJ and set up businesses. It is like that amorphous travel back and forth to NY as well. These people did not sit still nor restrict themselves to one area of the country. They were wheeler-dealer businessmen and travelled wherever opportunity took them. New Jersey was full of New Englanders.
Your census listings are probably a few generations after Richard and Innocent so there was ample time for them to migrate.
Remember, if Innocent Wardell married a John Cornell as one of her husbands then we could be talking one woman here.....
Innocent (Wardell/Wardele/Wodell/Woodell) Cornell Borden or
Innocent (Wardell/Wardele/Wodell/Woodell) Borden Cornell

I think this is the most likely scenario


Here are some references from Terry Mason's notes on this issue:

http://tmason1.com/pafn209.htm#3836

"Little Compton, Rhode Island family genealogies" by Philip Wilber the town clerk (FHL US/CAN Film 946840 Item 2) states:
JOHN BORDEN b. Sept. 1640; d. June 4, 1716; m. Dec 25, 1670 to Mary EARLE, dau. William - Mary (Walker).
Child: Richard b. Oct 25, 1671; d. -- m. 1692 Innocent Wordell, dau. of Gershom - Mary (Tripp) Wordell.

ALSO
In the "Revisions on the Borden Family" dated October 1981 by Anna T. Burr of her original issued in 1980
Page 1.
"There have been various accounts of the pedigree of Richard Borden, but this sketch is compiled in part from the authorative source: Research in England of the Bordens of Headcorn, County Kent by B. Andrew Moriarity and New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol. 84 (1930) pages 70-84 and 225-229.
I am indebted to Miss Gertrude N. Brick of Crosswicks, New Jersey, Mr. John I. Coddington, of Bordentown, New Jersey, Mrs Rebecca Borden Clement of Woodbury, New Jersey, Mrs Joan Cox Bohm, of Frankfort, Indiana, and Mrs. John Bradman, of Crosswicks, New Jersey. I have used the Woodward book and Hattie Borden Weld book on the Borden Family and the work of my cousin, Rebecca Cuthbert Rue Borden."

It was signed Anna T. Burr (NOTE: Weld Book also has errors. UAB).
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On pages 9 & 10 - Ann Burr has listed the nine children of John and Mary Earle Borden.
1.Richard Borden b. 25 Oct 1671 and married to Innocent Wardele.

ALSO
New England Families, Connecticut Edition, prepared by American Historical Society, Inc., c1931, p. 46.

(Austin: Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island with additions.)

[W. B. Weld: Genealogical Record of Richard and Joan Borden, pgs. 66-74.] This stated that Richard Borden's wife was Innocent Wardell.

So far, I only see one published source for the Innocent Cornell theory and that is
Genealogy of the Cornell Family, John Cornell 1902, New York.

The site http://members.cox.net/mountgen/cornell.html uses this source and traces the Cornells to NJ.

The book is online at: http://historical.library.cornell.edu/c ... Gene&seq=1


My tendency is to believe the pedigree on the LDS by Joseph Durfee but I have no sources to back up his three marriages for Innocent. The next move, were I tracing this family as my own would be to contact Joseph and ask if he would share his sources for the marriages of Innocent Wardell.

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It just seems to me we need more girls named "Innocent."
Then they can each have a husband. This "Innocent" doesn't sound so innocent. :smile:

The story about her being named that way doesn't convince me mainly because of other names we find at the time: Pardon, Patience, Hope, Peace.
Actually, Richard and Innocent's son Joseph who married Abigail Russell named a daughter Peace and a daughter Patience and a son Abraham. :smile:
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From old newspapers search, the earliest death of a Wardell recorded and published and copied, and then saved by me:
(These are all Massachusetts newspapers)

Deaths:
1736
April 27th issue
John Wardell, barber. He had an apolectic fit (sp.) in the street on the way to his business on Saturday morning, and was taken home and died there shortly after.
"New England Weekly Journal" Mass.

1774
October 15th issue
Jane Wardell (died yesterday).
"The Diary" or "London's Register."

1790
May 6th issue
Mrs. Mary Wardell wife of Capt. John Wardell, aged 37
"Independent Chronicle"

1802
December 10th issue
George Wardell, 6 year old son of Capt. John Wardell
"The Mercury and New England Palladium"

1804
May 11th issue
James Wardell
Died Sunday last, age 62.
"Evening Post"

1805
Oct. 21st issue
died Mrs. Hannah wife of Mr. Abiel Wardell, age 26
"The Independent Chronicle"

1811
Feb. 6th issue
Rev. Henry Wardell of the Protestant Episcopal Church, Trenton, N.J.
"Essex Register"
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I found my printouts from May- the Wardells I looked up previous to 1699.
I had said I felt this is the family Innocent came from because there were Borden's here in Shrewsbury, and Richard's uncles at that (Francis & Benjamin).
These are from Ancestry dot com. I no longer have access to that site.

I had marked these up a bit at the time.

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This may not be relevant, but I still think it is interesting.

http://members.aol.com/alicebeard/lakedesc.html

Maybe if we try real hard, we can tie Lizzie to a witch through Thomas Cornell & Sarah Earle. David Lake was Sarah's second husband. Then Thomas & Sarah's daughter, Sarah Cornell, marries a Butts who is a Lake descendant. They've got Wardells, Bordens, Brownells, Durfees, Manchesters, etc. Can ol' Bertha Manchester be far behind?

This family has everybody in it. Check it out for fun!
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This may not be relevant, but I still think it is interesting.

http://members.aol.com/alicebeard/lakedesc.html

Maybe if we try real hard, we can tie Lizzie to a witch through Thomas Cornell & Sarah Earle. David Lake was Sarah's second husband. Then Thomas & Sarah's daughter, Sarah Cornell, marries a Butts who is a Lake descendant. They've got Wardells, Bordens, Brownells, Durfees, Manchesters, etc. Can ol' Bertha Manchester be far behind?

This family has everybody in it. Check it out for fun!
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This may not be relevant, but I still think it is interesting.

http://members.aol.com/alicebeard/lakedesc.html

Maybe if we try real hard, we can tie Lizzie to a witch through Thomas Cornell & Sarah Earle. David Lake was Sarah's second husband. Then Thomas & Sarah's daughter, Sarah Cornell, marries a Butts who is a Lake descendant. They've got Wardells, Bordens, Brownells, Durfees, Manchesters, etc. Can ol' Bertha Manchester be far behind?

This family has everybody in it. Check it out for fun!
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