Watching The Legend of Lizzie Borden tonight

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Watching The Legend of Lizzie Borden tonight

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I haven't seen this made for TV movie in decades starring Elizabeth Montgomery. There is something nostalgic about older shows. Even if the show isn't entirely factual I found the performances very well-done, and the atmosphere realistic for that time period.
Oh, Mrs. Churchill, do come over, someone has killed father.
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Welcome back, James, it’s good to see you posting again.

The Legend of Lizzie Borden film is a definite winner, that is for sure. The cast did an outstanding job of bringing their characters to life. The speech used by the cast and their costumes were period perfect. The film immediately takes you to 92 Second Street, Fall River, MA, in 1892. However, there is one character that is missing in this film, that character being Uncle John V. Morse.

I don’t know if you are viewing this film on the evening of the 9th or the 10th, but you can view it anytime you wish on YouTube (There are several uploads of this film on YouTube.): http://tinyurl.com/h6gt4r8
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Here is some Interesting trivia:

Elizabeth Montgomery and Lizzie Borden were sixth cousins once removed, both descending from 17th-century Massachusetts resident John Luther. Rhonda McClure, the genealogist who documented the Montgomery-Borden connection, said, "I wonder how Elizabeth would have felt if she knew she was playing her own cousin." One of the gowns worn by Montgomery in the film is on display at the bed-and-breakfast that now occupies the Borden house.

The European theatrical version of the movie shows Elizabeth Montgomery's nudity during the scene when she kills her parents. In that version she is shown standing naked, covered in blood, holding an ax. In the ABC version, careful editing implies her nudity while never actually showing her naked.

The outside facade of the courthouse in the movie is also Rydell High in "Grease Live" with a few minor changes. Also, the church in the same in both productions.

Elizabeth Montgomery used prescribed eye drops to make her pupils look smaller, so they would look like Lizzie Borden's eyes after her morphine injections.

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I did not understand one bit.
Lizzie is in jail, and gets injected, and floats off on morphine to a flashback. She's a child watching her father through a window.
So Andrew Borden seems to be doing more of his undertaker stuff but above - what looked to me - like the body of another child, a young girl. My memory of it is he was injecting her. The recumbent child looked naked under a sheet, turned back to show bare shoulders... But it went by so fast.

What was going on??? Were we supposed to think that was Lizzie herself or a random cadaver or someone else who got cut in the edit, like Lizzie's dead sibling..?
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twinsrwe wrote:Welcome back, James, it’s good to see you posting again.

The Legend of Lizzie Borden film is a definite winner, that is for sure. The cast did an outstanding job of bringing their characters to life. The speech used by the cast and their costumes were period perfect. The film immediately takes you to 92 Second Street, Fall River, MA, in 1892. However, there is one character that is missing in this film, that character being Uncle John V. Morse.

I don’t know if you are viewing this film on the evening of the 9th or the 10th, but you can view it anytime you wish on YouTube (There are several uploads of this film on YouTube.): http://tinyurl.com/h6gt4r8
Wow, thank you for the further insight into this show. I had no idea the European version showed the nude scenes. I know they were careful to obscure that in the American version. I was viewing this movie on Youtube through my Apple TV App. I couldn't help but notice there seem to be undertones of possible inappropriate relations with her father, such as them kissing on the lips during certain scenes of affection. I wonder if the show was implying an incestuous cause behind the murders? Nice to be back. I try to post as time permits, but often real-life gets in the way.

By the way, I found a second link to my connection to Lizzie Borden through my Adam Mott Rhode Island ancestor. I would still be 7th cousin to Lizzie though.
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InterestedReader wrote:I did not understand one bit.
Lizzie is in jail, and gets injected, and floats off on morphine to a flashback. She's a child watching her father through a window.
So Andrew Borden seems to be doing more of his undertaker stuff but above - what looked to me - like the body of another child, a young girl. My memory of it is he was injecting her. The recumbent child looked naked under a sheet, turned back to show bare shoulders... But it went by so fast.

What was going on??? Were we supposed to think that was Lizzie herself or a random cadaver or someone else who got cut in the edit, like Lizzie's dead sibling..?
I thought the scene was him conducting his undertaking business in the basement with a deceased random person, and he traumatises Lizzy (as a young girl) to the dead body and the blood, which only fueled her bitterness towards her father. That is what I took away from that scene.
Oh, Mrs. Churchill, do come over, someone has killed father.
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