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Ooooo! Look who looks good at 45!


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Here is an interesting look at the personality of the youngest sister of sisters. This is from Terence's papers. No date no source= miscellanea.
He had written "Lizzie" at the top.


He had written "Lizzie" at the top.


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5 axes and hatchets from the Borden house. Looks like a decent artist's rendition. Note the HH has no stub of a handle in it at all. Lately I've seen views like this more and more from those times- no wood stub in the HH, I mean.


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Our Stuart submitted this item with no comment.
I couldn't read it, so I compared the handwriting to the LAB letter to Mrs. Cummings to figure out what it says.
I think I have every word except the last one. I bet Stuart knows what it says!
Anyway, why is Lizzie writing this to Mrs. Joseph Bowen?

I couldn't read it, so I compared the handwriting to the LAB letter to Mrs. Cummings to figure out what it says.
I think I have every word except the last one. I bet Stuart knows what it says!
Anyway, why is Lizzie writing this to Mrs. Joseph Bowen?

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Joseph A. Bowen was a local coal dealer and lived at 45 Rock St. He acted as one of the sureties when Emma was appointed administratix of the estate.
The NY Times and Boston Globe both cite Mr. Joseph A. Bowen as being at the Holmes' coming home party for Lizzie. The Crowel (N.Y. Press) papers say both Mr. and Mrs. Joseph A. Bowen were there.
The NY Times and Boston Globe both cite Mr. Joseph A. Bowen as being at the Holmes' coming home party for Lizzie. The Crowel (N.Y. Press) papers say both Mr. and Mrs. Joseph A. Bowen were there.
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Common Sense In The Household by Marion Harland, 1871.
This reminds me of Morse's visits to the Bordens, 1865, 1875, 1885, 1890, June, July and August, 1892.
I thought it was pretty interesting.
If a page is cut off on the right, please click on picture within the box and it will open on a new page.

This reminds me of Morse's visits to the Bordens, 1865, 1875, 1885, 1890, June, July and August, 1892.
I thought it was pretty interesting.
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Nice post Kat. I own a copy of that book as well. There are some very interesting bits of information contained there. The section concerning the proper treatment of servants is also very enlightening.
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I think this bit of information is very interesting in light of what we know took place on August 3-4 1892 in the Borden house. This comes from The Southern Gardner and Receipt Book on page 288. The bold face was added by me.
ANTIDOTE FOR POISONING BY ARSENIC.
Salad or olive oil taken warm, and repeated occassionally, will infallibly prevent any bad consequences, if the arsenic has not been taken very long before. It is the true antidote for arsenic, and should immediately be made use of, as soon as it is discovered that any person has swallowed it by mistake or otherwise. A gentle vomit given just after taking it, and then repeatedly drinking very fat mutton broth, will effectively cure it; by this method, Sir Hans Sloane saved the life of a young man. who, at his house at Chelsea, had drank a quantity of milk, into which arsenic had been put to poison rats.
and page 299
A REMEDY FOR ARSENIC.
Tobacco is said to be an infallible preventative against the fatal effects of arsenic, when taken into the stomach. In several instances where tobacco juice was swallowed after taking arsenic, no sickness resulted from the use of the tobacco and not the least harm from the arsenic. This is an important discovery.
Could this explain the tobacco that was found on Andrew's body, and their menu of mutton?
ANTIDOTE FOR POISONING BY ARSENIC.
Salad or olive oil taken warm, and repeated occassionally, will infallibly prevent any bad consequences, if the arsenic has not been taken very long before. It is the true antidote for arsenic, and should immediately be made use of, as soon as it is discovered that any person has swallowed it by mistake or otherwise. A gentle vomit given just after taking it, and then repeatedly drinking very fat mutton broth, will effectively cure it; by this method, Sir Hans Sloane saved the life of a young man. who, at his house at Chelsea, had drank a quantity of milk, into which arsenic had been put to poison rats.
and page 299
A REMEDY FOR ARSENIC.
Tobacco is said to be an infallible preventative against the fatal effects of arsenic, when taken into the stomach. In several instances where tobacco juice was swallowed after taking arsenic, no sickness resulted from the use of the tobacco and not the least harm from the arsenic. This is an important discovery.
Could this explain the tobacco that was found on Andrew's body, and their menu of mutton?
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This sounds or reads like something from over a century ago. I would caution anyone from believing this advice. In case of any poisoning, call 911 or emergency services. A sudden large dose could be fatal, small amounts over time are often mistaken for a disease.Allen @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:26 pm wrote:I think this bit of information is very interesting in light of what we know took place on August 3-4 1892 in the Borden house. This comes from The Southern Gardner and Receipt Book on page 288. The bold face was added by me.
ANTIDOTE FOR POISONING BY ARSENIC.
Salad or olive oil taken warm, and repeated occassionally, will infallibly prevent any bad consequences, if the arsenic has not been taken very long before. It is the true antidote for arsenic, and should immediately be made use of, as soon as it is discovered that any person has swallowed it by mistake or otherwise. A gentle vomit given just after taking it, and then repeatedly drinking very fat mutton broth, will effectively cure it; by this method, Sir Hans Sloane saved the life of a young man. who, at his house at Chelsea, had drank a quantity of milk, into which arsenic had been put to poison rats.
and page 299
A REMEDY FOR ARSENIC.
Tobacco is said to be an infallible preventative against the fatal effects of arsenic, when taken into the stomach. In several instances where tobacco juice was swallowed after taking arsenic, no sickness resulted from the use of the tobacco and not the least harm from the arsenic. This is an important discovery.
Could this explain the tobacco that was found on Andrew's body, and their menu of mutton?
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I've heard my country cousins speak of 'deerburger'. you take one pound of venison, grind it up, miz it with one pound of cheap hamburger, then cook it like hamburger.Kat @ Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:23 pm wrote:...
Venison, like other wild game, is rich in vitamins and minerals and low in fat. It is the fat that makes food taste good.
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I stumbled across this reference to Mutton in a book on origins of proverbs and folk sayings.
Mutton is meat for a glutton.
The earliest reference was Randle Cotgave in 1611. Other sayings from the 16th century referred to "Laced Mutton", which was an old eupherism for a prostitute.
Mutton is meat for a glutton.
The earliest reference was Randle Cotgave in 1611. Other sayings from the 16th century referred to "Laced Mutton", which was an old eupherism for a prostitute.
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Wall Art.

Please allow me to exercise my ignorance of historic city mural art. (Since KAT has posted an illustration of an Ax) This mural is part of a greater mural on the side of a building on 3rd street in Fall River, on the side wall of the Women's Garment Workers Union building just across the street from the down town USPS loading dock.
The part of the mural we see is of Mill buildings in Fall River. Not sure what the "AX" is there for or what it signifies, especially with the $ sign on the head?

Please allow me to exercise my ignorance of historic city mural art. (Since KAT has posted an illustration of an Ax) This mural is part of a greater mural on the side of a building on 3rd street in Fall River, on the side wall of the Women's Garment Workers Union building just across the street from the down town USPS loading dock.
The part of the mural we see is of Mill buildings in Fall River. Not sure what the "AX" is there for or what it signifies, especially with the $ sign on the head?
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In Ter's correspondence with Prof. Hoffman, there is a note from the Prof. about "Joseph A. Borden."Harry @ Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:38 pm wrote:Joseph A. Bowen was a local coal dealer and lived at 45 Rock St. He acted as one of the sureties when Emma was appointed administratix of the estate.
The NY Times and Boston Globe both cite Mr. Joseph A. Bowen as being at the Holmes' coming home party for Lizzie. The Crowel (N.Y. Press) papers say both Mr. and Mrs. Joseph A. Bowen were there.
He says his reference is from The Evening Standard, Sept. 2, 1892, p.1, col. 4. but that after that he could find no more reference to the man and if Ter ever ran across him, plesae let him know. He wanted birth and death dates on him too.
The trouble was- it was Joseph A. Bowen that he meant! A small mistake in transcription and because of that, he was left out of Prof Hoffman's Directory of names.
I just ran across this today.
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There was another Bowen/Borden name mix-up in the papers that I recall. When Lizzie was taken to the train station for her trip to the Taunton jail the paper said the name of the station was the "Bordenville" station, when it was the "Bowenville" station. Without checking I believe it was the Boston Globe.
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Allen @ Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:26 pm wrote:I think this bit of information is very interesting in light of what we know took place on August 3-4 1892 in the Borden house. This comes from The Southern Gardner and Receipt Book on page 288. The bold face was added by me.
ANTIDOTE FOR POISONING BY ARSENIC.
Salad or olive oil taken warm, and repeated occassionally, will infallibly prevent any bad consequences, if the arsenic has not been taken very long before. It is the true antidote for arsenic, and should immediately be made use of, as soon as it is discovered that any person has swallowed it by mistake or otherwise. A gentle vomit given just after taking it, and then repeatedly drinking very fat mutton broth, will effectively cure it; by this method, Sir Hans Sloane saved the life of a young man. who, at his house at Chelsea, had drank a quantity of milk, into which arsenic had been put to poison rats.
and page 299
A REMEDY FOR ARSENIC.
Tobacco is said to be an infallible preventative against the fatal effects of arsenic, when taken into the stomach. In several instances where tobacco juice was swallowed after taking arsenic, no sickness resulted from the use of the tobacco and not the least harm from the arsenic. This is an important discovery.
Could this explain the tobacco that was found on Andrew's body, and their menu of mutton?
Very interesting indeed! I wonder if the Bordens knew about this? What a strange coincidence?
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Bad Gas!
In 1872, Andrew may have read about this kind of thing to do with that new-fangled gas. I understand it was not uncommon for an older generation to be suspicious of new technology.
Gas from coal?
I think gas was somewhat dangerous in the early days, and unpredictable.

In 1872, Andrew may have read about this kind of thing to do with that new-fangled gas. I understand it was not uncommon for an older generation to be suspicious of new technology.

Gas from coal?

I think gas was somewhat dangerous in the early days, and unpredictable.

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Thanks for that Kat. I can understand the older generation not understanding new technology. My mother and her relatives don't have a clue how to "surf the internet" or engage in "cell phone activity". I can understand where they are coming from though, we have lived our entire lives without these things, so who needs them now?
Wouldn't "bad gas" give you an awful headache though? And I doubt stingy Andrew would even entertain the idea of upgrading to natural gas or anything other than the norm. But, perhaps he knew about this? Interesting.
Wouldn't "bad gas" give you an awful headache though? And I doubt stingy Andrew would even entertain the idea of upgrading to natural gas or anything other than the norm. But, perhaps he knew about this? Interesting.
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