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Lizzie had a house in Nebraska?

Postby sguthmann » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:39 pm

Hi all, I'm new to the group but find the discussions fascinating so far...

I recently heard that sometime after the murders, Lizzie Borden purchased a house near Hebron, NE. Apparently she never lived there - I don't think anyone ever did. Can anyone confirm that Lizzie did indeed purchase this house or cause it to have been built? Has anyone else heard of this house, or perhaps even seen it?

If this information is credible, this is an interesting footnote to the story. Thanks!
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Postby Kat » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:00 am

HI!
Hope this is helpful:

I'm rummaging around in Rebello*, thinking there might not be a legitimate Nebraska connection. Thought I'd check wills. This is an entry in Uncle John Morse's will:

"Mrs. Amy Andrews, niece, Scotts Bluff, Nebraska children of Selecta Morse Shaw, married Philip Shaw, Jr."


Joe and Ms. Beaulieu (sp?) found reference to Nebraska while researching old news items on John Morse:

"John Morse and J. C. Anderson have returned from a trip thru Nebraska and Kansas, driving overland. The two enjoyed themselves as much as when they were boys." Glenwood Opinion, June 14, 1900: 8.


Rebello, 269:
"Rumors"

"Bordens Lived West / Lizzie Was a School Teacher and Objected to Second Marriage," New Bedford Daily Mercury, Friday, June 29, 1893: 2.

"It was erroneously reported that Lizzie lived on a farm in Glenwood Mills County, Iowa, just across the river from Omaha, Nebraska, from 1870 to 1883. It was at this time that Andrew married Abby, according to this report."

Malvern Leader, IA, June 29, 1893.

"The Nonpareil [at Council Bluffs], is authority for the statement that Lizzie Borden, who was tried and acquitted of the murder of her father and stepmother at Fall River, Mass., and whose trial created such widespread interest, was for some years a resident of Mills County, living with her parents near Glenwood. It was while living in this county that the murdered couple were married. Lizzie was a school teacher and taught in several districts near Glenwood."

--[I recall seeing the copy of this original item during Joe's research on Morse]:
Red Oak Sun, IA, June 30, 1893.

"Lizzie Borden, of Fall River, Mass., who was recently tried for the murder of her father and step-mother and declared by the jury not guilty, used to live near Glenwood and taught school in Mills County. Her father and her step-mother were married in Mills County.”

"Hastings,"' Malvern Leader, IA, July 6, 1893.

"It is said by those who are in position to know that it is a mistake in regard to Miss Lizzie Borden or her father ever living in Mills County, as published in the Council Bluffs papers. It must have been some other family of that name."


These are what I recall on Lizzie and Nebraska.
Anyone else know anything more?

*Rebello, Leonard. Lizzie Borden Past & Present, Al-Zach Press, Fall River, MA, 1999
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Postby sguthmann » Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:31 pm

Hi Kat! Thanks for your reply. Very interesting. Only thing is, the article in the paper where I saw this recent reference was very clear about the house being outside the town of Hebron, NE (not IA).

The article I read was quoting a local woman who used to beg her father to take her past "Lizzie Borden's house" on their trips to the dentist in Hebron. The woman seemed quite certain that the house had been built specifically for Lizzie Borden, but that she had never moved there. Of course, recollections can be fuzzy, and it's possible the story was only a legend, and not in fact true. I just found it interesting...something I had never heard before and wondered if it could be substantiated.

Great information though, and maybe it all fits with the Nebraska house somehow? Yet another mystery!
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Postby Kat » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:10 am

Stefani, as webmistress, was once contacted by a magazine who was involved with a prize give-away of a B&B in another state. The reporter wished to know the "Lizzie and Emma Borden" connection which the B&B touted. Stef passed the query on to me.
I did a genealogy for the reporter and found the connection was way back; she took this to the local historical society and found out there was not a shred of evidence that the Borden girls ever stayed there. The owners fessed up that it was a publicity ploy (but they did think it was plausible- but it wasn't) and the contest continued without the Lizzie Borden reference, was given away and everyone was happy.

I think if you are anywhere near NE., you might fish around there because I don't think any of us would find a reference from where we are. :smile:
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Postby Audrey » Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:35 am

Total Est. Time: 24 hours, 16 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1583.59 miles
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Postby Kat » Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:11 am

Is that your route, Audrey? Going overland?
I wonder how long travel time might have been in say, 1900?
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Postby Audrey » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:40 am

That is Fall River to Hebron!

MON DIEU!
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Postby Harry » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:15 am

Uncle John used to make the trip fairly regularly. I think railroad travel was not as bad as we would imagine in the late 1800's and in some cases pretty good.

After my recent trip to Fall River by air that slow kind of travel doesn't look so bad. We did great once we got out of the Boston area but their traffic was horrendous. Thank goodness Stef found the HOV lane.

I must have shifty eyes because at the Boston airport they volunteered me for an extensive search. Actually it was pretty easy and the only additional item I had to remove was my belt. They also went through my carry-on bag and shaving kit.
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Postby Kat » Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:27 pm

Yes Audrey! By rail?
How long would that take I wonder? I think it took Morse a week to get to Hastings in December, from the Fall River area.
The 5th thru the 12th or something like that.
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