The June 2005 issue of The Hatchet is Online! early!

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:14 pm

The June 2005 issue of The Hatchet: Journal of Lizzie Borden Studies is online for your viewing pleasure! We have some truly great articles that I know you will enjoy! ---a whopping 72 pages in length!

**Our Fall River lad, Mark Amarantes, creates a truly amazing photographic journal of the tearing down of the Leary Press;
**Kat Koorey pens two pieces on the infamous property on Second Street---a history of the property and a list of its past owners;
**Sherry Chapman examines the Pansie, as well as shares another wonderfully funny installment of Dear Abby;
**Dave Rehak asks some very important questions about the secret Robinson files;
**Denise Noe give us her insight into The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, as well as a thoughtful analysis of Brown's Lizzie Borden: The Legend, the Truth, the Final Chapter;
**Mary Elizabeth Naugle offers up a very informative look at the clothing that Miss Lizzie wore that fateful day; and,
**TK Rouse graces us with two more Lizzie cartoons!

To those with subscriptions, please visit The Hatchet's site at:

http://www.hatchetonline.com/HatchetOnline/index.htm

To those who don't yet have a subscription, I have added a free issue download so you can sample the journal before you buy.

Enjoy!!

Stefani Koorey
Editor/Publisher
The Hatchet: Journal of Lizzie Borden Studies

Liz Crouthers · Post by **Liz Crouthers** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:12 pm

Thanks for the tip Stefani.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:14 pm

The issue is great!
Those pictures are incredible!

Thanks to every one who contributed!

BTW: I personally had a problem in that I was trying to view the download with an outdated Adobe Acrobat (5).
I did go to Acrobat and download the newer version. (7).
It took a while to get it all, because it also wanted me to update the new download. Which I let it do. For some reason, Adobe was not explicit in its instructions but I was patient. Once I was very patient, it all worked out OK.
If I can do it, anyone can do it. It was my first!

I am keeping my Adobe5, tho. So now I have both. Got to move ahead with the times, right?

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:20 pm

I was beginning to think maybe I was the only one struggling....I will keep trying. It seems like it's the Adobe part that is giving me the most grief.

Tracy...

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:27 pm

I have adobe professional and I do not like it...

It does odd things with The Hatchet. I used to be able to click "fit visible" and see one page at a time in my browser window.. Now I have to see either 2 or have it too huge to read... I did not like it!

Anyone know how to fix this?

As usual-- the issue is great and anyone here who does not subscribe-- those photos are worth the $29 subscription. Not only that-- You can always buy a single issue and see for yourself it is worth the price!

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:34 pm

Audrey @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:27 am wrote:I have adobe professional and I do not like it...

It does odd things with The Hatchet. I used to be able to click "fit visible" and see one page at a time in my browser window.. Now I have to see either 2 or have it too huge to read... I did not like it!

Anyone know how to fix this?

Auds, I use Adobe v7.0 but the view may be the same. Down on the lower right, is there a tool bar just above the clock? And in that tool bar are there 4 different squares representing how the view will be? If so, try clicking the first one which will give you what I think you want.

Harry

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:37 pm

Audrey, the two page spread view is my fault, not yours. This issue I had the default set to the spread option where you see two pages side by side. This is because some of the images extend over the center and onto the next page beside it.

You can change that in your window for Acrobat. Down in the bottom right shoudl be icons to change the view choices.

Here is a screenshot of what I mean:

What you do is select another view and it will now be one page at a time, if you like. If this doesn't work, let me know and I will see what I can come up with.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:41 pm

Merci Beaucoup Stefani and Harry!

That is all that I needed to do!

I just cant say enough about this issue and those FABU photos...

I do love always love The Hatchet....

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:45 pm

I love the 2 page spread!
And I can also change the size it is on my screen. At the toolbar I have a choice of 70%, 77%, 100% etc.

Yes the issue is worth every penny! Mark and Stefani make a great design team- he provides a wonderful *eye* and Stef presents these pictures so well!

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:49 pm

theebmonique @ Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:20 pm wrote:I was beginning to think maybe I was the only one struggling....I will keep trying. It seems like it's the Adobe part that is giving me the most grief.

Tracy...

Let us know if you get it done?

Once I had downloaded the Adobe, I didn't know what to do. I just clicked on it and sat and waited. It didn't tell me what came next.
What came next was the INSTALL.
Which means after the download you have to install it. That is what took so much time. It was just a slow process. I followed the prompts with YES to everything. It took me about an hour.

Tina-Kate · Post by **Tina-Kate** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:23 am

Wow! I was *riveted* to the spot by those photos. On the one hand, I was shaking my head at the damage caused to the exterior of the house by the addition of the commercial building. On the other hand, it seems the house is breathing a sigh of relief in being released -- all that light & air now so free to circulate! In fact, it seemed almost as if there were negative stuff inside cowering from the invasion of light. OK, so maybe my imagination...but I found the images very powerful! Great article by Kat on the history of the changes in the house -- I'm so glad you mentioned the upset window symmetry! I also *loved* Mary's article re the clothes. *Dear Abby* hilarious as always...& a terrific fake Lizzie photo -- outstanding hair color!!! Yet another great issue.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:38 am

I was blown away by the how great the pictures were also. They were truly something! I was so swept up in looking at the pictures and reading the articles I almost forgot to take my dinner out of the oven

.This issue is really wonderful! I agree the pictures really were powerful.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:04 am

Just got done reading the newest edition of The Hatchet, I feel so satiated, like after a great meal! Thank you all for your contributions, truly wonderful. It was interesting to see Mark's pics of the back of the Borden house from the angle of what would have been Mrs. Churchill's back yard. Normally the barn would have been there to block that view.

Bob Gutowski · Post by **Bob Gutowski** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:41 am

I stayed after work last night to print out a copy, and I'm stunned by the photos of the razing of the Press. Thanks for an important historical record of this momentous event! The house does, indeed, seem to be exhaling with relief, and how wonderful it will be to see sunlight in the sitting room!

Can't wait to grab some time later and start reading!

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:11 am

Yes indeed! Truly wonderful pictures "Mark" , you have a talent for photography it seems apparent.

There are also over 121 photographs at the Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast website. Those are wonderful images as well. A few showing Lee-Ann Wilbur, Manager, digging in the privvy. Wonderful interior photographs showing how the light shines through in the kitchen and sitting room with the windows exposed. Visitors to the site "photo gallery" can leave comments, and there have been more than 4,300 visits to that site so those images are getting great "exposure" (pun). I've discovered that it is the images with the little red dot that have the visitor comments. Also you can double click them and print them out. I've already framed a couple of them and added them to my real "photo gallery" of Bordenia in our home.

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:48 am

beckygoddess @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:11 am wrote:Yes indeed! Truly wonderful pictures "Mark" , you have a talent for photography it seems apparent.

I am curious---how did you get to see these images when you do not have a subscription to The Hatchet?

FairhavenGuy · Post by **FairhavenGuy** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:03 pm

Yeah, so my password's stored at work and I'm at home, and I can't seem to find a "Forgot Your Password?" thing to click. . .

And I ain't even really sure of my user name, because my subscription was a gift (A WONDERFUL GIFT!) so the user name was assigned to me. . .

So I'll wait 'til tomorrow. . .

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:20 pm

Hi Christopher! It's good to see you back here! I was wondering about you today!

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:50 pm

I FINALLY got THE HATCHET downloaded. It is printing at this very moment. I am peeking as it comes off the old HP...WOW !!! I can hardly wait to see it all ! GOOD WORK EVERYONE ! Mark...your pictures are divine ! Having seen the house "ala Leary"...and now to see your pictures with it being "Leary-free"...I am just amazed. It was posted earlier about the house seeming to breathe a sigh of relief...so true.

Tracy...

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:59 am

Stefani @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:48 am wrote:
beckygoddess @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:11 am wrote:Yes indeed! Truly wonderful pictures "Mark" , you have a talent for photography it seems apparent.
I am curious---how did you get to see these images when you do not have a subscription to The Hatchet?

Easy, Stefani. A subscriber shares with us. :) And you need not ask who for I'll let that person reveal themself, or not, as they so choose. :) Quite a nice work effort by the way, very well done. Kudos. :)

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:13 am

So you are smiling that you are getting something for free that others pay for? That you are taking advantage of a friendship and are doing something you know you shouldn't and are happy and rather boastful about it----what does that say about you?

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:22 am

Beckygoddess...

If you cant afford your own subscription, please let me know.

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:41 pm

My goodness, Stefani - such anger and hostility derived from what source is a mystery to me. I don't understand you battering me like that. Exchange of Bordenia items freely and willingly - be it items procured through paid or free subscriptions - an activity many years ongoing between friends of mine do the same. It's called friendship. It's called mutual interest. It's called sharing. We don't feel any of us are taking advantage of each other or anyone else. When friends of mine interested in this case, be they lurkers or members of this forum, get new Lizzie information we share it. For example, I recently paid for a letter written by Lizzie in 1916. It was not an orginal. It was a photostat of a photostat of the letter. I paid $80 for it. I made photo copies of it and traded it with three of my Bordenia friends for books they had on Fall River, that I did not. City of the Dinner Pail by Jonathan Thayer Lincoln, Victoria Lincoln's father. That friend had paid over $100 for the book originally.

Your logic, in assessing the above, would have it I was ripping off the party who sold me the photostat copy of a photostat copy of Lizzie's 1916 letter because that person could have sold another photostat copy to someone else for another $80, but by my copying it and GIVING it to a friend in trade, I was ripping that person off. Being a linear thinker, that logic escapes me.

Could it be, Stefani, that at heart of the matter is a thought in your mind telling you that you were cheated of a subscription fee? Why else all the hostility? And surely you don't think that people who have a paid subscription keep the issues locked up so that no other eyes can ever see it but the paid subscriber for fear of the "Subscription Police" barging through their door and seizing all occupants for criminal prosecution in the Court of the Absurb?

Could it be you are more upset in not getting the subscription fee? The underlying message of your tone would imply such a rationale.

Contrary to your thinking that I am taking advantage of a friendship as you state, please note that our exchanges and trades of Bordenia has only served to strenghtened those friendships.

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:58 pm

Tracy "theebmonique"

I tried to respond to your private message to me, but a notice came up "The Administrator has banned you from sending Private Messages."

Is this retaliation for our preferring to keep our email address private? I thought that was an allowable option on this forum? Am I being singled out or do others who have their emails private find they are banned from sending private messages?

In my reply I was giving you our postal mailing address here in New York. But now I can't even do that. :( Well, I could to be sure, were I to post it right here out in the open, but I don't wish to do that.

I think I'm being punished for having friends who share The Hatchet with me when Stefani, the Administrator, wants her subscription fee. LOL

stuartwsa · Post by **stuartwsa** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:56 pm

It's not exactly "sharing" when the material has been copyrighted.
Stefani, Kat, and all the others that work so hard on "The Hatchet" are not becoming wealthy from the subscription rates, I'm sure. But as writers, artists and photographers, they deserve any compensation they receive, and more. They certainly DON'T deserve to have their work "shared" with someone too cheap (calling Andrew Borden!) to buy a subscription.
If you can see fit to spend $80 on a photostatted copy of one of Lizzie's letters, you can certainly afford to fork over for a "Hatchet" subscription.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:05 pm

beckygoodess,

I did post my email address in another thread, but maybe you missed it. ([email protected]) Email me.

I do not know the correct legal phrasing/definition, so pardon my stumnling through this, but I believe when a particular 'thing' is copyrighted, as is THE HATCHET, that one must have permission from the owner of the copyright to have a copy of said 'thing', as in a 'subscription' in the case of THE HATCHET. When you have legally purchased the right to read/have something via a subscription, that right belongs to you...not to you to give to someone else.

I understand maybe looking at someone else's subscription once...and when you realized you are interested...you get you own. Stefani and her crew go to A LOT of hard work to put it together for our enjoyment and education, and I feel they should get their just rewards...which is a mere $29. If you really have an the strong interest in the case, $29 a year would seem a small amount to pay. I am sure if money is a problem, you could take Audrey up on her offer. She is very kind.

Tracy...

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:36 pm

Becky..

As you may know many of us are planning a rendezvous in FR in August. Theebmonigue and I are traveling together. We are planning to spend 2 days/nights in NYC en route to Massachusetts. We will be staying at the St. Regis on 5th Avenue. I would be thrilled to have you as my guest for lunch one day. The Astor Court serves an adequate meal-- or we can go for eggs Benedict at Serafina....

Do let me know!

Perhaps we can bridge a gap?

Perhaps we have been unkind. We have been victimized by an absolutely dreadful woman. She is the very definition of dishonest and deceitful. She can be somewhat cunning but never quite pulls it off. She has been wrangling members for free issues of The Hatchet for quite some time and takes on various identities to participate here. Her most recent one was that of a man from California. She even went as far as to use a photo of people visiting the B&B and pretended that she was the man in the photo! While in this persona, she made remarks to me in a PM about my personal appearance. As you can imagine, I was a bit put off by this harridans behavior.

She is jealous of the credibility Stefani enjoys in "Lizzie-Land", as she is not well regarded by anyone who has much interaction with her.

We did a web search and even found she fights on the Internet with members of her Arizona home town. There isn't an enchanting thing about her...

We tend to be on guard when we think she might be up to her old tricks.

(She looks like "Larraine" on Mad TV)

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:02 pm

Heavens! What a dreadful story! No wonder there is a strain of reserve and hostility (Stefani's) after such experiences.

I am familiar with the St. Regis. What dates will you be there?

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:08 pm

theebmonique @ Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:05 pm wrote:beckygoodess,

When you have legally purchased the right to read/have something via a subscription, that right belongs to you...not to you to give to someone else. "

Surely you are not serious with that statement? We subscribe to Time, Newsweek, Vanity Fair, and several others. We give those to my son when he comes over. He takes them and passes them on. I also subscribe to a number of art and museum related periodicals and magazines. I share those too, by giving them away to others to read. Others I have found at yard sales for a cheap price.

The Lizzie Borden Newsletter is also posted in the internet and can be printed out. That used to be a paid subscription publication as well. But now it's up there on the internet for all in the Web world to get for free.

Again, I'm really having difficulty following the logic on these complaints.

acy...

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:10 pm

I didn't think Stefani was hostile at all...

However, if you continue with your post pubescent jabs she may become so!

You really live in a large city like NYC?

It seems like you have more the mindset of a small town woman.

We will be in NYC From July 29-31

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:15 pm

The above post was not all mine as quoted. I put in bold Below, which part actually belonged to me.

theebmonique @ Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:05 pm wrote:
beckygoodess,

When you have legally purchased the right to read/have something via a subscription, that right belongs to you...not to you to give to someone else. "

Surely you are not serious with that statement? We subscribe to Time, Newsweek, Vanity Fair, and several others. We give those to my son when he comes over. He takes them and passes them on. I also subscribe to a number of art and museum related periodicals and magazines. I share those too, by giving them away to others to read. Others I have found at yard sales for a cheap price.

The Lizzie Borden Newsletter is also posted in the internet and can be printed out. That used to be a paid subscription publication as well. But now it's up there on the internet for all in the Web world to get for free.

Again, I'm really having difficulty following the logic on these complaints.

Tracy...

Tracy...

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:25 pm

Now, to address the point in question; I believe that publications like TIME, NEWSWEEK, etc., may fall under a different category than THE HATCHET, as you do not HAVE to have a subscription to come by them rightfully. You may go to nearly any local store to make their purchase. While THE HATCHET, is supposed to be available through a properly purchased subscription only. At least that is my understanding. We have some lawyer members here...perhaps they would like to clarify the confusion here ? I am no legal expert...so anyone with legal expertise...please help !

Becky, did you happen to catch my email address that I left in another post ? Will you email me please ?

Tracy...

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:27 pm

The Lizzie Borden Newsletter is also posted in the internet and can be printed out. That used to be a paid subscription publication as well. But now it's up there on the internet for all in the Web world to get for free.

This is still available ?...how do I get it ? Is there a web address ? Thanks !

Tracy...

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:35 pm

Here it is Tracy.

http://lizzieandrewborden.com/Newzlette ... letter.htm

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:36 pm

So, just to be clear...

They GIVE you their copy of The Hatchet and do NOT provide you with a copy, hard or otherwise while retaining a copy, hard or otherwise for themselves?

I send all my old magazines to my husband's dental office waiting room-- I do not make copies of them on the copy machine and place them about.

Anyone with any sense at all can clearly see the difference. ESPECIALLY someone who states she is involved in Museums!

I have but two words... MON DIEU!

Ok... More than that!

What a lunch we will have!

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:42 pm

Oh...well, I know about the one from Stef's website. I thought you mean there was another one...LOL. THAT one has been replaced by THE HATCHET.

From the link becky provided:
The Lizzie Borden Newzletter

The Lizzie Borden Newzletter was published for one year and kept its subscribers up to date on late breaking news related to the case, upcoming Lizzie event information, links to Lizzie related items for sale, and details of new features of the web site. The newzletter was sent in an email, in text only format without attachments, as some may not be able to read HTML email and/or do not accept email with attachments.

Each month, the expired Newzletter was added to the archive on the left, making it available to visitors to this site. The newest issue was only available to subscribers to the Lizzie Borden Newzletter.

We have moved on now and are publishing a bimonthly online journal with more indepth articles and research on the case. It is called The Hatchet: Journal of Lizzie Borden Studies. You can subscribe to this great magazine at the HatchetOnline.com.

Tracy...

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:45 pm

Audrey @ Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:10 pm wrote:I didn't think Stefani was hostile at all...

However, if you continue with your post pubescent jabs she may become so!

You really live in a large city like NYC?

It seems like you have more the mindset of a small town woman.

We will be in NYC From July 29-31

Perhaps, Audrey, you and I differ on what is considered hostile. Frankly, I consider your post above to be hostile, if not in the least rather rude. I think banning me from sending private messages, and so sudden after my posting about getting The Hatchet, was an act of hostility. Consider if it happened to you. I sure you can manage that as I think you are a woman who thinks about herself a lot.

No, I don't think I care to meet up with you when you're here in Manhattan. Had things worked out differently, I would have extended an invitation to our apartment for libations and sharing a look-see at my Bordenia collection.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:29 pm

You make friends easily, yes?

As far as me thinking about myself a lot?

Of course I do!

Haulover · Post by **Haulover** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:29 pm

***Could it be you are more upset in not getting the subscription fee? The underlying message of your tone would imply such a rationale. ***

As i contributor, i am interested in the profitability of the magazine myself. i would prefer recipients pay the subscription.

______________________________________

about this issue:

love the beautiful dilapidation in the close-ups of the old planking.....and the wood texture and knob on the bannister of the back steps (was reminded the steps don't go down on both sides now) -- all the close-ups very revealing and new for some of us. my favorite shot is the one from the back with tree trunk in foreground in dimensions roughly that of a movie screen.

classic dear abby: from LAB of fall river, swansea and europe, writing to learn that abby wants to go with her head on straight.

and congratulations, joe -- i'll be sure to read it.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:56 pm

As i contributor, i am interested in the profitability of the magazine myself. i would prefer recipients pay the subscription.

I whole-heartedly agree with you Eugene.

Tracy...

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:00 pm

We tend to be on guard when we think she might be up to her old tricks.

(She looks like "Larraine" on Mad TV)

Auds...you always fine the BEST stuff ! Great pic ! I laughed so hard that I.......well you know what happens when I laugh hard !

Tracy...

FairhavenGuy · Post by **FairhavenGuy** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:28 pm

beckygodess,

If your friend lends you a one-and-only printed copy of the Hatchet and you return that copy to the friend, there is no violation of the copyright law.

If you go to your friend's home and read the Hatchet on your friend's computer, there is no violation of the copyright law.

If your friend is making more than one copy of Hatchet or is emailing it or copying it to disks for one or more friends it is a violation of the copyright law, whether or not money or items of value change hands.

Stefani has every right to be angry.

My brother is a musician with a couple of CDs released. You could borrow my copy of his CD. You could listen to his CD at my house. If I made you your own copy and gave it to you, it would violate the law.

The copyright law also applies to reproducing material that is distributed for free. My wife and I publish a monthly magazine. We distribute 5,000 copies free around our town. Our profit is from the paid advertising. Still, the magazines contents are copyrighted. We own the right to reproduce that work. Reprocuction of any of the articles, photos, artwork, etc. in the magazine, without our written permission, is violating the copyright law, with the exception of brief excerpts as allowed under the fair use section of the law.

It seems trivial, but writers, artists, musicians, and their publishers or producers and distributers lose millions of dollars a year from "one friend making a copy of something to give to another friend."

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:57 pm

Chris...THANK YOU for the clarification on the copyright law.

Tracy...

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:51 pm

Becky,

So are you still going to meet up with Audrey and myself in NYC ? We really are planning on having fun trip. It would be a shame if you missed it. And...I am sure seeing your Bordenia collection would be mosting interesting.

Tracy...

beckygoddess · Post by **beckygoddess** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:02 pm

FairhavenGuy @ Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:28 pm wrote:beckygodess,

If your friend lends you a one-and-only printed copy of the Hatchet and you return that copy to the friend, there is no violation of the copyright law.

If you go to your friend's home and read the Hatchet on your friend's computer, there is no violation of the copyright law.

If your friend is making more than one copy of Hatchet or is emailing it or copying it to disks for one or more friends it is a violation of the copyright law, whether or not money or items of value change hands.

Stefani has every right to be angry.

My brother is a musician with a couple of CDs released. You could borrow my copy of his CD. You could listen to his CD at my house. If I made you your own copy and gave it to you, it would violate the law.

The copyright law also applies to reproducing material that is distributed for free. My wife and I publish a monthly magazine. We distribute 5,000 copies free around our town. Our profit is from the paid advertising. Still, the magazines contents are copyrighted. We own the right to reproduce that work. Reprocuction of any of the articles, photos, artwork, etc. in the magazine, without our written permission, is violating the copyright law, with the exception of brief excerpts as allowed under the fair use section of the law.

It seems trivial, but writers, artists, musicians, and their publishers or producers and distributers lose millions of dollars a year from "one friend making a copy of something to give to another friend."

No, my friend makes a hardcopy which I read then return.

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:15 pm

beckygoddess @ Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:02 pm wrote:No, my friend makes a hardcopy which I read then return.

I published the journal close to 5PM on Thursday and by 11AM the next morning you have a copy and have read it? Your friend must have a high speed printer and you must be a speed reader, not to mention live hearby each other. So she gives her copy to you first? What a wonderful friend you have indeed!

Just checked----only one subscriber lives in NYC and I don't think she would be the one to assist you.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:21 pm

beckygoddess @ Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:45 pm wrote:

Perhaps, Audrey, you and I differ on what is considered hostile. Frankly, I consider your post above to be hostile, if not in the least rather rude. I think banning me from sending private messages, and so sudden after my posting about getting The Hatchet, was an act of hostility. Consider if it happened to you. I sure you can manage that as I think you are a woman who thinks about herself a lot.

No, I don't think I care to meet up with you when you're here in Manhattan. Had things worked out differently, I would have extended an invitation to our apartment for libations and sharing a look-see at my Bordenia collection.

Things like this do not happen to me.

I can see you are not so very fond of me... But that is OK. If I was you, I would not like me either.

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:34 pm

beckygoddess @ Sat Jun 05, 2005 6:02 pm wrote: No, my friend makes a hardcopy which I read then return

stuartwsa · Post by **stuartwsa** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:40 pm

Audrey, you're THE BEST!!!
I'll be giggling for days, thanks to you.

Nona · Post by **Nona** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:22 am

im buying my own subscription as soon as i got the money..iwill not be left behind in the cold!! LOL!:)