Was reading Victoria Lincoln last night, and she states that Andrew's pocket watch was silver.
She also states that Abby's purloined watch was gold. No telling what became of it, but I highly doubt JVM would wear that, if it were given to him, and he knew the provenance.
I still can't picture him buying such an extravagance for himself-- maybe he took it in trade on a horse, or two horses? Such trading would not have been uncommon.
The little puzzle left here, though, is why he didn't mention the watch in his will, when he is so specific about the dispensation of his silverware therein. Seems he would have wanted to leave it to a nephew.
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Morse In The Witness Statements -Notes
I had been working up notes from The Witness Statements on all references to Morse therein, and taking note of times.
Here are 5 downloads with that info extracted. Please keep in mind these statements may not have been taken down on the day the witness was questioned. That is something we don't know as of yet. We also don't know how accurate our policemen were in their note-taking, and the transcription process.
Hopefully you can print these out.
(If you prefer "JPGs" please let me know.)
Here are 5 downloads with that info extracted. Please keep in mind these statements may not have been taken down on the day the witness was questioned. That is something we don't know as of yet. We also don't know how accurate our policemen were in their note-taking, and the transcription process.
Hopefully you can print these out.
(If you prefer "JPGs" please let me know.)
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Hey Harry.Nadzieja wrote:When I order The Hatchet as it is published I always order an older issue so someday I'll have all of them. I couldn't believe it when I saw this thread. I bought Vol 1, Issue 3. In it is an article on John Morse writted by Glen Carlson. It goes into his family tree. I also think he knew alot more than he told, his behavior was too "abnormal" through the day. In this article it says there are references to Sarah's disposition in The Knowlton Papers (I don't have this book so I can't reference it). There is a reference to a 75 year old retired sea captain named James C. Stafford describing Sarah as "a very peculiar woman" She had a Very bad temper. She was very strong in her likes and dislikes. When I read that I thought that it could have also described Lizzie.
The other article was on Orinton Hanscom written by Harry (Widdows). It mentions how Hanscom was hired by Lizzie to go to Iowa to check out something of John Morse's past record. I can only wonder what this could possibly be about.
I have to say Harry that it was a good article. I really didn't know anything about this man except that he was a detective.
Lizzie hired a detective named Hanscom to go to Iowa to check out something of john Morse's past record? And you wrote an article about the issue?
It's great! It makes me think...
"Mr. Morse, when you were told for the THIRD time that Abby and Andrew had been killed, why did you pronounce a "WHAT" to Mrs. Churchill? Why?"
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For the letter of Andrew I agree with DJ, except one point: we should be sure if Morse took the letter with him the August 3rd, or he asked someone to bring it to him after the murder occured.DJ wrote: ...
2) That Morse carries the letter Mr. Borden sent him. ... He certainly didn't need to present it to gain admission to the Borden house. Or, did he realize how useful it would be if he saved it? To even carry it with him? More than a little too convenient.
3) That Morse leaves Mrs. Emery with the impression that he's headed straight to New Bedford from her house. But, he returns to the Bordens'. How easy and polite of him to have just remarked, when Mrs. Emery at last invited him to dinner, "Thank you, but I have an engagement at the Bordens'"?
DJ made a good point for the fact that Morse left Mrs. Emery with the impression that he's headed straight to New Bedford.
DJ, augusta, et alii, where are you now? I miss you very much!
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1bigsteve, in my opinion, Morse could have been much more dirty than you might imagine.1bigsteve wrote:Good run down, Kat. I have always felt the John Morse had something to do with the murders. I can't put my finger on it but I'm sure he was involved somehow. He smells dirty to me.
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"Mr. Morse, when you were told for the THIRD time that Abby and Andrew had been killed, why did you pronounce a "WHAT" to Mrs. Churchill? Why?"