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John L. Sullivan
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:44 pm
by Allen
While I was doing research on Bridget Sullivan and her husband John, another famous Sullivan kept popping up in my search results. The first time I got results for John L. Sullivan I thought I had found information on Bridget's husband

. But this was John L. Sullivan a famous boxer who lived from 1858-1918. He was heavy weight champion at one time. The reason I bring it up, is while I was looking through my NYT articles about the murders and the trial, there was an article on one of the pages about John L. Sullivan right above the item about Lizzie. I wondered why my research kept bringing me to him. I know it's just coincidence. But, since he kept popping up I decided to research him a little as well

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Sullivan_(boxer)
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0847167.html
The New York Times on May 16, 1893:

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:02 pm
by doug65oh

I'm not much on boxing, but I'd not have minded seeing this feller fight just once. Those were the days of bare knuckles, blood and guts.... Not sure how true it is, but awhile back I'd seen - one of those Biography programs I think - and they mentioned that Sullivan once offered to take on all comers with the words "I'll lick any sonofab... in the house!"
Hmmm... I wonder how his trial came out??

(Photo Source:
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/corbett.htm)
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:04 am
by Kat
Whew! Beating up on a one-armed lawyer??!!
Ah, I guess he doesn't discriminate!
Are most boxers like that tho- like Mike Tyson- just really mad all the time?
Thanks for the item, Allen. Was Lizzie removed from the ___?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:38 am
by Allen
Ok, I rescanned the image and cropped out just the story of Lizzie. I didn't mean to chop her off that way. ( That was a really bad pun

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:47 am
by Kat
Thanks! You're such a tease!

I should be treated so well when I am sick!
Jeesh! Wouldn't want to cheat the hangman, now would they?
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:50 am
by doug65oh
I dunno...in Sullivan's case I suspect it might have had more to do with the bottle than sheer rage. I've heard him described as being very much like Jack Dempsey - a widely-known "soft touch" when it came to money.
Oddly enough, one source has it that "The Boston Strong Boy" fought his last round on the 1st day of March 1905 - and swore off drinking four days later.
http://www.hoganstand.com/general/ident ... llivan.htm
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:22 pm
by Allen
Great link doug, thanks for posting it.