Lizzie Borden Society Forum

cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy,

it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

This has always tickled me...

It works in other languages too!

How about this one?

oga sraey neves dna erocs ruoF
noitan wen a tnenitnoc siht no htrof thguorb srehtaf ruO
noitisoporp eht ot detacided dna ytrebil ni deviecnoc
.lauqe detaerc era nem lla taht
....raw livic taerg a ni degagne era ew woN

Four score and seven...
I could only read it because once I cracked the quote I could tell what it says.
That's weird. Do you read backwards?

doug65oh @ Tue May 23, 2006 2:18 pm wrote:How about this one?

oga sraey neves dna erocs ruoF
noitan wen a tnenitnoc siht no htrof thguorb srehtaf ruO
noitisoporp eht ot detacided dna ytrebil ni deviecnoc
.lauqe detaerc era nem lla taht
....raw livic taerg a ni degagne era ew woN

Four score and seven years ago
Our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation
conceived to the proposition
that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great war...

OK, smarty pants, figure out this one:

Ipplb Upplb nz tpeb dsbdlb xfmm epft zpvs nbnnb dibx upcbdbx?

-1bigsteve (o:

Steve - that's actually wrong. You missed a word... last line, hehe.

Well, no Kat I don't read backwards - unless I have to. Left to right, usually I can actually write faster backwards though, faster than I can type. Typing takes longer because I have to worry about where the fingers are. Processing the backward spelling really isn't all that difficult, odd as that might sound.

doow wolley a ni degrevid sdaor owT
rellevart eno eb dna htob levart ton dluoc I yrros dnA
nwod dekool dnd doots I gnoL
.htworgrednu eht otni tneb ti erehw ot eno eht

(Proofing backwards for typos though is filthy nasty!)


..exa na koot nedroB eizziL
skcahw ytrof rehtom reh evaG
enod dah ehs tahw was ehs nehW
.eno-ytrof rehtaf reh evag ehS

I translated the whole thing on paper, Doug. I didn't miss the word civil, I left it out because I never felt there was anything "civil" about a war. I also have a habit, a hobby actually, of changing lyrics in popular songs or words in poems and such. It's a lot of fun.

Have you figured out my phrase yet??? Try it I dare you.

-1bigsteve (o:

i don't recognize it, no... is that an anagram?

No, it's not an anagram. The solution is actually very simple.

-1bigsteve (o:

Stef, that was cool! I could read it just like normal.

The backwards writing was easier to read in the second example. At first I thought Doug was writing backwards and mixing up the middle letters.

Did anyone see the movie "Amadeus?" where he talked backwards?

Big Steve, is yours a cryptogram? Or martian talk from your planet? I can't get it. Post it to me, Steve. I won't tell anybody.

actually what we've got here looks like a "backwards one" (as in one letter) cipher.

"nz" for instance is "my"...
(I don't have the whole thing deciphered yet but am close.)

doug65oh @ Wed May 24, 2006 1:22 pm wrote:actually what we've got here looks like a "backwards one" (as in one letter) cipher.
"nz" for instance is "my"...
(I don't have the whole thing deciphered yet but am close.)

That simple substituion has long been called the 'Caesar Cipher' from its alleged use by Julius Caesar (actually 3 letters away). OK for a very short msg, but wouldn't fool the educated literate. Don't forget, only a tiny fraction of the people could read until the 19th century!!!
Aren't we straying far from the topics?

Thanks for the reminder - it is the Caesarian cipher, or a version of it. The name slipped my mind, as I hadn't seen one in probably 22 years.

As for the cipher itself - Steve, you are a foul feller! What's this mix of English and pigeon dialect? It's like... Joel Harris & Lewis Carrol on steroids or something!

Ipplb Hooka
Upplb Tooka
nz - my
tpeb soda
dsbdlb cracka
xfmm well
epft does
zpvs your
nbnnb mamma
dibx chaw
upcbdbx? Tobacay?
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As for straying from the topic, I'd say we're really doing better at keeping this one on course than we've done with others. (That is of course my own opinion, humbly stated, based on observation and experience.)

"As for straying from the topic, I'd say we're really doing better at keeping this one on course than we've done with others. (That is of course my own opinion, humbly stated, based on observation and experience.)"

I love it when you quote Arnold Brown!

I was quoting Arnold Brown? Thanks, Bob... now I've gotta go wash out my mouth!

doug65oh @ Wed May 24, 2006 10:21 am wrote:Thanks for the reminder - it is the Caesarian cipher, or a version of it. The name slipped my mind, as I hadn't seen one in probably 22 years.

As for the cipher itself - Steve, you are a foul feller! What's this mix of English and pigeon dialect? It's like... Joel Harris & Lewis Carrol on steroids or something!

Ipplb Hooka
Upplb Tooka
nz - my
tpeb soda
dsbdlb cracka
xfmm well
epft does
zpvs your
nbnnb mamma
dibx chaw
upcbdbx? Tobacay?
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As for straying from the topic, I'd say we're really doing better at keeping this one on course than we've done with others. (That is of course my own opinion, humbly stated, based on observation and experience.)

You got it, Doug! Well, almost. It's "Tobacaw." All letters were just shifted one over to the right.

It's lyrics from a song called "Hooka Tooka" which is a song derived from the original song "Promenade In Green" which was also called "Green Green Rocky Road." It's been recorded by several singers including Chubby Checker but Judy Henske blew the fool out of it in 1962. It's a real nice song. I saw her perform it live last July.

I'm so used to reading posts on the Net with such poor spelling that I was able to read Stefani's post above without any trouble. Now, if I could just read my bad spelling...

How much soap do you need, Doug?

-1bigsteve (o:

oh, okay - I see, I went the wrong direction on the last letter there... sheesh!!

(Never heard of the song, by the way.)

doug65oh @ Wed May 24, 2006 1:03 pm wrote:oh, okay - I see, I went the wrong direction on the last letter there... sheesh!!

(Never heard of the song, by the way.)

It's a nice one Doug! It starts out in a comedy routine and then she gets serious. Her "Love Henry" and "Ballad of Little Romy" are two others that sound so good. Judy's deep voice has gotten deeper over the years. She tried mimicking my voice and she did not have to drop her register very far to do it! Wonderful lady.


-1bigsteve (o: