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A Lizzie Poem And A Black Dahlia To

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:37 pm
by 1bigsteve
Here are a couple of "poems" I have been working on that I wanted to pass along to you all and see what you think. I am not a Sylvia Plath or even a writer so don't laugh. Well, you can laugh a little bit. :wink: :grin:

One is about our Lizzie and the other is about The Black Dahlia murder case. When you read each one once, go back and read it again and then let me know what you think. They both involved murder, a who-dun-it, and both people in question are dead. I worked on both at the same time so there is a simular thread running through both.


Lizzie, Lizzie, Was It You?

Lizzie, Lizzie, was it you
who took your mother's sad and lonely life?
Lizzie, Lizzie, is it true
you turned the blade on your father too?

What happened, Lizzie Borden,
that August day in eighteen ninety two?
Was it you alone, Lizzie,
or was it you, Bridget and maybe Emma too?

Did you creep upon your mother making a bed?
Was your father on a sofa hardly sleeping?
Did you, Lizzie, with an axe, strike your parents dead?
When all was over, were you, Lizzie, weeping?

Was it love of money that drove you to it,
and perhaps a little too much spite,
or was there a whole lot more to it, Lizzie,
than just a simple family fight?

Lizzie, Lizzie, how did it feel,
when in your warm, soft hands,
that cold, hard steel?
Did you taste fury in the madness of your mind?
Was there no compassion in your rage?
Did you feel the pain, the anger, the hurt
and the bitterness of years of frustration
burning in your heart, and was the hate
seething in your throat?
As you were driving that sharp steel home
with every vicious blow,
was your very soul on fire, Lizzie?
Was your blood running cold?
As you gazed upon the carnage
and realized what you had done,
were there, Lizzie, tears in your eyes,
a mournful cry in your heart?
When all was over, were you, Lizzie, weeping?
Tell us, Lizzie, when all was over, said and done,
tell us, Lizzie, were you, Lizzie, so sadly grieving?

When their hearts were no longer beating
and you were laying in that cold, dark cell,
did you slumber well, Lizzie, did you, Lizzie,
or were you haunted by the deeds you had done?

You bought a big house with a fancy car or two,
loved lavish parties, had a staff and chaufffeur too.
The neighbors would snub you and walk on by
but through it all you waved a hello and a goodbye.
Now tell us, Lizzie, when Emma left you,
were you happy with true friends so very few?
When people saw you and moved a little faster,
did you find happiness
behind dark walls of walnut, maple and plaster?

What beat, Lizzie, beneath your breasts?
Was there warmth, softness and tears we cannot see?
Many have said you were cruel, heartless and cold,
but children know who they love, Lizzie,
and some said you were kind with a big heart of gold.

For many years you have now been gone,
resting lonely in your cool, dark grave,
but on that warm August morning we wonder still,
did you dance on that day and sing a little song?

Lizzie, Lizzie, we have searched so long.
Lizzie, Lizzie, we have tried so hard.
Will we find the answers in a few books or two,
or will they remain forever hidden within
your ice-cold eyes of blue?

Tell us, Lizzie Borden, is it true?
Oh, Lizzie, Lizzie, was it you?
____
Copyright 2006 by Steve Tillman. All rights reserved.



Black Dahlia (what were your dreams?)

On a cold, dark and lonely night,
with a flash of a sharp knife,
a young woman so young,
lost her life.

Who were you, Black Dahlia?
What were your hopes,
and what were your dreams?
This world can be so very cruel,
or so it seems.

You laid upon that field
drapped in morning dew,
many years have come and gone
but even now we still think of you.
Like an elusive shadow
with each passing day
you haunt our minds,
but in our hearts there is a place,
I wish your eyes could see,
a place where you will always stay.

Who were you, Black Dahlia?
What would you have become?
Were you full of life?
Were you a lot of fun?
Like a flower on the edge of a stream
you withered away in a morning sun.
What were your hopes, Black Dahlia,
and what were your dreams?

You left this world so very young,
much too young to die,
and though we never said hello,
Black Dahlia,
we will never say goodbye.

On a cold, dark and lonely night,
with a flash of a sharp knife,
a young woman so young,
yes, Black Dahlia,
you lost your life.

Who were you, Black Dahlia?
What songs would you sing?
And will you please tell us, please,
tell us, Black Dahlia,
what were your hopes,
and what were your dreams?
____
Copyright 2006 by Steve Tillman. All rights reserved.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:29 pm
by doug65oh
Steve... you oughta be whipped - you told a bald fib! These verses are not the work of a non-writer! Both are really quite excellent! (My particular favorite is the one to Elizabeth Short.)

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:03 pm
by Angel
Lizzie Lost

A smile, a hug,
A warm word or two,
But all things changed,
And longing grew.

Confused

Then all is still,
No lingering trace.
No longer seen-
A mother's face.

Perplexed

A distant thought
Of memories past.
A strange new soul
Too dense and crass.

Unsettled

A sister's care,
But not enough.
The change too like
A cold rebuff.

Lonely

A father's cool
Unfeeling stare.
A child's scared thought
"He doesn't care."

Angry

A life of dreams
Now gone like wind
by others' greed
And hateful sins.

Uncomforted.

A lashing out
To stop the pain.
Then, peace and calmness
Once again.

Justified.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:43 pm
by Susan
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we have some very talented people on this forum! Good work, Steve! I loved this portion of the Black Dahlia poem;

Like an elusive shadow
with each passing day,
you haunt our minds,
but in our hearts there is a place,
I wish your eyes could see,
a place where you will always stay.

I find it works as well for Lizzie.



Nice one, Ellen! I really enjoyed the spare style of your piece. Have either of you thought of contributing to The Hatchet? You both have some really good stuff there to share with all of the other Bordenites. :grin:

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:25 pm
by matt kevin jones
BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO

Steve I think you pulled a "Trickery" on us.
Your are a fine poet it seems.
They were excellent.
Now I must go back and edit some of mine, so they will be worthy to be on the same forum as yours.
Once again BRAVO
Matt

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:44 pm
by theebmonique
Very good Angel and Steve ! I have no talent for expresing myself or my feelings in the way you both have done so nicely. As as has been said...we do have some talented people amongst us !


Tracy...

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:58 pm
by 1bigsteve
Thank you everybody! I deeply appreciate all of your kindness. It is very thoughtful of you all. Thank you. :grin:

I had a lot of fun tinkering on these two. My Black Dahlia piece was my personal tribute to ALL the women and children who have been victims of violent crimes. It does not matter to me what Elizabeth Short may have been, or done, in her life, she was a precious human who did not deserve the death she got. No one deserves to be murdered. It is my small way to tell these victims that they will always be remembered, they will never be forgotten. Never.

My Lizzie piece came out of the blue. I had it roughed out in about 20 minutes but it took days to get it finished. I am not completely happy with either but sometimes we need to know where to stop I guess. I am trying to get one going on the Titanic, centering on the first officers failure to give the right command to the engine room when it counted the most.

Matt: Maybe we can start a new thread for everyone here to use to place their own writings and poetry. I would like to read everyone else's work. I'm going to buy some books on writing soon. I would like to start learning how to do this stuff. There is so much I want to learn. I never got interested in poetry until I read Lynn Hiltons writings in the Reader's Digest (May 1972) article about her early death. Her life was the basis for John Denver's song, "Sunshine On My Shoulder." When I read Emily Dickinson's, "Will There Really Be A Morning?" I was hooked. Emily writes like I think. Sylvia Plath's work has got to be the deepest poetry on the face of the earth. It is so deep I cannot figure out what she is talking about. I love reading her's but she may be talking about "door knobs" for all I know. I have a ton of books on her life and work.

I look forward to reading your work, Matt, and everyone else's.

Thank you again, everybody. You made my day!

-1bigsteve (o:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:07 am
by Kat
You guys's writing is inspiring.
It's really neat that you all could write this in so little time!
Thank you for sharing.

When other's here have thought to start offering their private writings, they have gone and started a personal website and provided a link.
Missy for example.
She didn't think she could do it- found a template, designed a poetry site and now offers a link for that. She ended up making a beautiful site, and was very pleased that she learned to do a new thing. It's satisfying.
You might wish to try that.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:12 am
by Kat
Steve, it was very obvious that you were sensitive to all the victims of murder and that you mourned those lost souls who had no justice. It came across beautifully in your Black Dahlia poem.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:02 pm
by twinsrwe
Steve, your poems are absolutely AWESOME! The poems are about two of my favorite people - Lizzie and The Black Dahlia.

Ellen, I enjoyed your poem as well. Very nicely thought out.

I want to thank both of you sharing them with us.