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Robello

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:15 am
by Nona
Hey does anyone know the status on the Robello books????????? Iv'e read there short of supply the B&B says there out of stock

AM I s%%% out of luck....will I never get to own my own Robello? Anyone know? I HAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEE to have one!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:15 am
by Audrey
Mr Rebello has a limited amount of books remaining for sale...

You can order it directly from him and not only save yourself money-- but he ends up with all the profits from the sale!

Here is a link to the thread Kat started a few months ago first announcing the dwindling inventory..

viewtopic.php?t=155&highlight=buy+rebello


(It is well worth the price)

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:43 pm
by theebmonique
Nona...listen to Audrey...and the rest of us who will only reiterate what she says...IT IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE...and adding to that, any serious Lizzie scholar CANNOT afford to be without THE BIBLE of research about the case.


Tracy...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:07 am
by Nona
Thank you so much..I have it on good record that it is going to be my MOTHERS DAY present!!!!!:) yahhhhhhhhooooooooo!~!!!! Thank you:)

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 10:38 pm
by Allen
I'm GETTING A ROBELLO!! I'm finally getting one for myself. I've heard you all talking about it, and the more I thought about it, the more I had to have one. I can't wait to get my hands on it! :lol:

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 10:41 pm
by Audrey
Melissa... You are going to love it.

While you are waiting for it to come brew up a bunch of freeze ahead meals...

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:26 pm
by theebmonique
Yes...Rebello is one of THE books to have. The Bible of Lizzie reference books. Congratulations.


Tracy...

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:26 pm
by Liz Crouthers
Maybe I should get one

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:56 pm
by Allen
Well I will keep the idea about the freeze ahead meals in mind Audrey, because I plan to start reading it as soon as it arrives. I've already warned my husband :lol:. I'm sure I'm going to love it, I'm already impatient for it to get here.

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:07 am
by Audrey
Melissa, (do you ever go by Missy?)

I think I know how you will be when it comes..

Here is your checklist:

1)- Several legal pads
2)- 12 pack of favorite soda, chilled and ready
3)- DVD to keep family occupied and away from the desk/kitchen table
4)- Snack foods that will not get on your fingers and transfer to the pages. (I have a red smear from some flamin' hot fries on mine-- trust me on this one)
5)- Fresh pens/pencils
6)- Some deserved Mom time....

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:43 am
by Allen
Audrey @ Tue May 17, 2005 11:07 pm wrote:Melissa, (do you ever go by Missy?)

I think I know how you will be when it comes..

Here is your checklist:

1)- Several legal pads
2)- 12 pack of favorite soda, chilled and ready
3)- DVD to keep family occupied and away from the desk/kitchen table
4)- Snack foods that will not get on your fingers and transfer to the pages. (I have a red smear from some flamin' hot fries on mine-- trust me on this one)
5)- Fresh pens/pencils
6)- Some deserved Mom time....
Yes, I actually do go by Missy. Thats what most of my friends call me. I am copying down the checklist right now. Sounds like an excellent plan of action thanks, Audrey :grin: .

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:09 am
by theebmonique
Audrey is such a dear. A true altruist.


Tracy...

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:49 pm
by Wordweaver
It's huge, it's well-researched, it's filled with blessedly solid facts. It's wonderful. Mr. Rebello should become of the first recipients of the Order of the Cognée Sanglante, along with Kat and Steph and Harry for bringing us this website and the downloadable documents.

Lynn

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:50 pm
by Nona
Here Iam yes, I have recieved my beautifull, wonderful Rebello. I got it and was amazed, really just overcome.with absolute AWE! Iam on page 300 and I have to say my god Audrey was soooooo right i got everything you said to plus.....I can't put it down!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe how much information is in there. Im so impressed with Mr. Rebello's dedication to the subject what an amazing man. Thank you all for your wonderful advice!:)

Oh and he signed it I feel so lucky:) (I only have one other signed book by the author:)

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:28 pm
by Allen
Well, after an initial mix up, I am finally going to receive my Robello. I purchased the book online from the Fall River Historical Society. I called the Historical Society to confirm that they had received my order, and at first they said they had no record of the purchase. I am not really sure what caused the mix up, but I believe it was on the part of paypal. After a few calls to the Historical Society they were able to clear it up, and Micheal Martins assured me on the phone today that it had been sent out this morning!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:28 pm
by Allen
I've been looking at other books listed on The Fall River Historical Society site, and I was thinking of buying a book called Yesterday in Old Fall River, does anyone else have this book? This time to avoid any mix up with paypal, I'm just going to print a copy of my order and send a check :lol: .

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:37 pm
by beckygoddess
it's by Paul Dennis Hoffman published in 2000, Carolina Academic Press. It's a useful tool in that it has hundreds of people related to the case in alphabetical order with little bios on their relationship to the crime or the principals to it or having any influence before or after relating to the case or principlas. . Yesterday in Old Fall River - A Lizzie Borden Companion has a number of factual errors and is no where near a complete listing of people. Jules Rychebusch wrote the Forward and Hoffman has a lengthy Preface. It's over 400 pagess and has a number of illustrations. If you are into Lizzie it is very much a worthy book to add to your collection.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:55 pm
by Liz Crouthers
Thats becky I was planning for last month but changed my mind and I'm going to change it again.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:58 pm
by theebmonique
Becky,

I tried PMing you, but I am not sure if it went through. Would you mind emailing me ?...I have some questions. Thank you !
([email protected])

Tracy...

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:31 pm
by Kat
Allen @ Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:28 pm wrote:I've been looking at other books listed on The Fall River Historical Society site, and I was thinking of buying a book called Yesterday in Old Fall River, does anyone else have this book? This time to avoid any mix up with paypal, I'm just going to print a copy of my order and send a check :lol: .
I have it and rarely use it.
I use it to find the right spelling sometimes.
Sometimes to get a quick birthyear.
A good simple index to Rebello's bios in his book is more useful, I think.

I added a revised index just now to the Privy- it is a combination of Ter & myself. Its main objective is to point you quickly to the biographical information in Rebello's book, which name already had multiple page listings. Names which only have a few page numbers, say 3 or less, are not included here.

viewtopic.php?p=15245#15245

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:29 am
by theebmonique
Great info Kat ! Good to have on hand. THANK YOU !


Tracy...

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:40 pm
by Allen
Well you guys may not see me around the forums for awhile. IT'S HERE!! At long last my Robello is here! :smile: . I knew it was going to be a big book, but I still wasn't prepared for the over all size of it. It's bigger than I imagined it would be. I can't wait to get started on it! I am taking special note of Audrey's list again as we speak :lol: .

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:44 pm
by Kat
When you meet with Len Rebello, Melissa, if you can quote from it, he gets very tickled and says "You Read my book!"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:56 pm
by Nancie
well I certainly agree that Robellos book is wonderful, the index... yahoo for an index. But
really all any author can do is cite newspaper reports, there really isn't anything alarming in the
book. After 100 years you would think SOMEONE
would come forward!! Those New Englanders are a
tough bunch!

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:37 pm
by theebmonique
I believe that Mr. Rebello did MUCH MORE than JUST cite newspaper reports, as there are 37 pages of bibliographic credits alone. (Rebello, pgs. 595-632). It was not the intention of Mr. Rebello to present a new theory or solve the crime, but to give the details and facts in a concise form...and leave the 'deciding' part to us. As per the foreword, written by Robert T. Johnson Jr., a corporate attorney from Chicago and friend of Mr. Rebello;...Len presents no conclusions and champions no theories. He has "no axe to grind" (ouch !), leaving it to the reader to draw his or her own conclusions based on all the available facts. Despite the scholarly and fact-intensive nature of the work, it is arranged topically and chronologically into an extremely readable book, enjoyable to lawyers and non-lawyers alike. It brings the affair to life and brilliantly connects the past with the present. The book is a pleasure to read and is the most valuable addition to the Borden literature in many years. (Rebello; Foreword & Introduction pgs. xiii - xvii).


Tracy...

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:58 pm
by Kat
Since you brought it up, Tracy: Robert T. Johnson, Jr. wrote one of the best articles in the book Proceedings-The legend 100 years after the crime- A conference on the Lizzie Borden Case. I think, anyway.

It's called "They Would Like To Have Been Cultured Girls: An Analysis Of The Testimony Of Alice Russell During The Prosecution Of Lizzie Borden". pg. 225.

It's certainly the longest title!
Really good article.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:01 am
by Kat
I think we keep writing Leonard Rebello's name in order to show it is mispelled throughout the topic without calling huge attention to that fact.
But so much for being subtle. :smile:

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:19 am
by theebmonique
Kat...that book is another one on my summer reading list. I am going through the Witnes Statements now. And...yes on the REBELLO thing. I am sure it is an just an oversight...but the teacher in me does get a bit wiggly when it happens...LOL.


Tracy...

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:42 pm
by Nancie
Tracy I think you are so defensive about Rebello
because you met him. His book is wonderful for the
research and index, period. There is nothing in that
book that is new or exciting, don't you think?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:07 pm
by FairhavenGuy
While Len Rebello didn't offer any earth-shattering, previously undiscovered facts, Nancie, he did collect into one volume virtually every known fact related to the case and to nearly all of the people connected to the case.

He also did things like provide maps of Andrew's last walk, the entire Second Street neighborhood, etc., that give a clearer picture of the events and the testimonies of witnesses.

The only way it could be more comprehensive is if he'd provided all the Court transcripts, witness statements and things available at lizzieandrewborden.com.


And, yeah, Tracy is somewhat gaga because she drove around with him, too.

By the way, I think the collectors item would be an unautographed copy of Rebello.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:29 pm
by theebmonique
Nancie...it really is ok for me to defend Rebello for my reasons, as you would/did Lincoln, for your own reasons. I never expected him to have anything NEW in his book. What I feel is so great about his book is as Chris says and as I stated before, is his organized collection of facts/evidence.

The reason I posted what I did previously was because of your comment: But really all any author can do is cite newspaper reports, there really isn't anything alarming in the book...yes...there is nothing new...I don't think I claimed that at all, but I didn't understand why you thought what you did about authors just citing newspaper reports. Help me understand ?

OK Chris...LOL...'gaga' ? OK...maybe I was 'gaga' at first. But I think I am at a comfortable 'amazed' now. I had so much fun, I just got a little giddy. I guess I am not as quiet and reserved as Nancy...LOL.


Tracy...

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:13 pm
by FairhavenGuy
Right Tracy. . . but still I can easily imagine you running around Odgen, Utah, waving your arms and yelling, "I met Len Rebello!"

And I can imagine virtually all of Odgen, Utah, averting its eyes and making believe it doesn't see you.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:30 am
by Kat
I have an unautographed copy. I also have a messed up cover which he wanted to replace for me gratis out of the blue. I declined.
He's a really bright, nice and helpful person. I think Tracy counts herself lucky to be his friend.
Teachers like each other- they are sympatico- what can I say...:smile:

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:43 pm
by Nancie
my copy isn't autographed either. I think a lot of us
have the "Sourcebook" by Kent, it is all of the actual
newspaper acticles, plus the Inquest testimony. But
no index, so I definitely vote for Rebello on his
organization and creating a wonderful index. There is no doubt his book is #1 as the reference manual
on this case. Tracy I was just commenting on the
fact that this book is not going to give us any answers, just the facts. Someone like Lincoln or even "Gramma" to me is more interesting because they can give us tidbits of actually being there at that time, from their ancestors.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:07 pm
by theebmonique
I do count myself lucky Kat...and as for the teacher thing..."Birds of a feather......."


Tracy...