More Nance

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:56 pm

I found these pictures by doing a search of this site:

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/miscpics/0/1/ ... 3286.shtml

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:10 pm

Oh Wow ! Audrey is going to be SO excited about these pictures ! Nance is her almost favorite 'subject' in the whole Lizzie saga. Melissa, I am sure this will absolutely make her day ! GOOD JOB !

Tracy...

Audrey · Post by **Audrey** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:20 pm

Mon Dieu....

I do think Tracy is mistaken. ....

I told her I did enjoy to "dance a reel"....

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:36 pm

Oh my...I apologize for my misunderstanding. I thought you said "Nance is the real deal"...meaning you really like her. The pictures are a great find anyway Melissa. Old Nance is such a mystery as far as her true relationship with our Lizzie.

Tracy...

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:54 am

Thanks Tracy. I thought they were a very interesting find. I am very interested in Nance. I also think if we knew more about their relationship, it could really shed some new light on the way we view Lizzie. We would maybe understand a little more about her personality and her character.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:27 am

Thank you for the pictures!

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:05 pm

QUOTATION: Tradition has made women cowardly.
ATTRIBUTION: Nance O’Neil (1874–1965), U.S. actor. As quoted in Famous Actors and Actresses on the American Stage, vol. 2, by William C. Young (1975).

From an article first published in Theatre magazine in 1920.

http://bartleby.school.aol.com/66/69/42969.html
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I thought this spoke towards how respected an actress Nance was.This is from a biography of the actress who became known as Marian Marsh.

In 1928, 15-year-old Violet Krauth became Marilyn Morgan and made a momentous decision. "By this time, I was crazy to act!" she recalled. With rare acumen, she contacted famous stage star Nance O'Neil and arranged voice and poise tutoring, hired master Ernest Belcher for dance lessons, and contracted a noted voice specialist to learn singing. Four days after her release by Goldwyn, she was at Warners for a screen test.

http://www.filmsofthegoldenage.com/foga ... arsh.shtml
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It seems to me that aside from Bernhardt, the most memorable first night was when Nance O’Neil, a San Francisco girl, first, appeared on the stage a star.

Born Gertrude Lamson, her religious father, an, auctioneer, denounced, his daughter in church, for going on the stage, and asked the congregation to pray for her.

She drifted away under the management of McKee Rankin, who made her, a star in Australia. London also acclaimed her before she returned to her home town. When she rushed onto stage in “Leah the Forsaken,” wild-eyed, hair disheveled, fleeing from her pursuers, it seemed to me that I was looking at Siddons or Ristori. Indeed, she wore Ristori’s jewels.

Critics Lukewarm

Nance had genius that made all other actresses, except Bernhardt, seem second rate.

The small audience, gave her curtain call after curtain call. Next morning I was surprised to find all the critics lukewarm. I said to Fremont: “I don’t know what to write.”

He replied: “Pay no attention to the other critics. Write just as you feel.”

So I wrote that the San Francisco girl was a genius.

She changed her program every night and I attended each performance. For a week she didn’t draw, and then suddenly the theater was crowded.

Later, she appeared under David Belasco, but she was too long with Rankin to fulfill the promise that she gave.

http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist8/olderbio.html
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Some links relating to Nance O'Neil. Some of them only make a small mention of her, but I think any mention at all is still some insight into what she may have been like, and how she was perceived by others:

http://www-tech.mit.edu/archives/VOL_02 ... 1_P002.pdf

http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/f ... 87&mod=bio

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642042/

http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/08.07.html

http://www.press.umich.edu/titleDetailDesc.do?id=10976

http://silentgents.com/BTalmadgeN.html

http://www.kwic.com/~davus/full_review/rankin.htm

http://www.things-and-other-stuff.com/E ... nnants.htm

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:53 pm

Thanks for all the info and links!

This one was pretty interesting about what it would be like to live in California/L.A. 100 years ago.

http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/SpecialRe ... ItWas.html

It's from your link, which is pretty cool in itself!
http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/08.07.html

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:09 pm

Thanks for pointing that link out Kat! It had some really interesting information listed there.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:09 pm

Oh, BTW: In the last recent issue of The Hatchet, Tina Kate Rouse has provided us with a really involved and interesting history of Miss Nance O'Neil:

"Queen of Tragedy: Nance O'Neil."

Feb/March 2005 Issue, Vol. 2, No. 1

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Also we have an offering by William Schley-Ulrich in The Hatchet. April/May 2004 Issue, Vol. 1, No. 2
entitled

"The Many Faces of Nance."

It provides a wide-ranging annotated filmography of Miss O'Neil.

For subscription info

http://www.hatchetonline.com/HatchetOnline/index.htm