Photo's of Lizzie in Her later Years ?

matt kevin jones · Post by **matt kevin jones** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:17 pm

Could you seasoned Bordeneers, lend a hand to a newbie?
I've did a few searches, but had no results.
Does anyone know if there are any photo's of Lizzie in her later years, besides all the popular ones that are readily availiable ?
Say, some after Her move to Maplecroft?
Or some near her Death ??
Or was She Camera Shy, after the trial, and in Her later Life.
Thanks
Matt

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:14 pm

think that she might have been shy. I have not seen any pix of her in later years

nbcatlover · Post by **nbcatlover** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:21 pm

matt--it always seemed to me that the photo of Lizzie with a round face wearing rimless glassess was one of her "older" photos.

You can check it out here:

http://lizzieandrewborden.com/Galleries ... graphs.htm

nbcatlover · Post by **nbcatlover** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:22 pm

oops???

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:21 pm

Isn't there another "older" photo of Lizzie wearing rimless glasses looking directly into the camera lens? I think I saw it in "Goodbye Lizzie Borden."

Are they the same photo?

Too bad we don't have any motion pictures of Lizzie.

-1bigsteve (o:

matt kevin jones · Post by **matt kevin jones** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:23 pm

Thanks Freinds for the reply
Its really a Shame that we cant see Lizzie in Her older years,
The photo of Her with the round glasses, is the only one I could find too.
She was a very attrative Woman it seems ( not overly pretty, but attrative ). I just wonder how all the Drama in Her life may have aged Her. I guess in our eyes She will be forever Young. Wouldent it be nice if we could all stay young looking forever like Her. I just cant imagine Her looking like an old Lady.
Have a Good Week everybody.
Matt

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:05 am

I have never seen any photos of her later on in life, although I have seen some drawings of her. So either there are some of her and they drew from that or they were doing creative license with the photos of her in her younger days.

Yooper · Post by **Yooper** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:04 pm

It could be that Lizzie avoided cameras later in life. I guess it comes along with that kind of notoriety.

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:04 pm

I think she just wanted to live her life without being bothered.

Richard · Post by **Richard** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:16 pm

Every time I look at the known pictures of Lizzie, I wonder if we have any clear idea of what years they were taken. The picture of her "older" with the glasses, was that taken after 1900? In the 1910s?

I've always been fascinated by the picture of Lizzie standing with her hands on a chair. you can see the siding of the house behind her. Was this taken before the murders? And if she is standing by the side of the house, doesn't that make it unusual in that it wasn't a studio portrait? Under what circumstances would a photographer set up his gear on the side of the house to take her picture? Was that photo found in private possession after her death or was it a new photograph that was taken to be circulated in newspapers?

Either way, it seems that particular photograph is used often in "Women Who Kill" type books, because it is the photo that makes her eyes look the most sinister. If you only know her as an axe murderer, it is an unsettling photograph.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:43 pm

The photo of Lizzie standing behind the chair was taken in 1893. After her acquittal she stayed with friends in Newport, R.I. and the photo was taken at their house.

augusta · Post by **augusta** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:26 pm

If you think about it, Lizzie didn't really live all that long. She never made it to 70.

It has been said that Lizzie liked to have her picture taken. So where are they all? I think that some will trickle out to the public as time goes on and people discover them in attics; when people who may be trying to protect her privacy finally relent and let them go; a lucky person looks thru a box at a flea market.

I would think she would have photos of her pets. And her friends. And her with her friends. And the trips she took.

It has been said that Lizzie liked new things. I believe she was one of the first in Fall River to own an automobile. I would think that when motion pictures came out, she was probably interested in them. Who knows? Maybe some day one with Lizzie in it will be found. There has been at least one of General Custer's wife, Libbie.

It is generally accepted that the photo of Lizzie behind the chair with the siding of a house in back of her was taken in Newport after her acquittal. She did spend "a few weeks" at the house of Wm. King Covell on Farewell Street. Today it is a B & B. It is beautiful inside.

We know she went to that house then to rest and "ride". But I am starting to have doubts as to whether that photo was taken there.

She has a book in her hand in the photo. It looks as if she were reading and a friend said, "Come on, Lizzie. Let's have a photo of you." (I wish I knew what book she is holding.)

Historians point out the fact that she is heavy in the photo, which indicates her lack of exercise in jail for 10 months. She looks to be the right age. She was actually like 5'4" and 135 pounds. In this photo she does look more than that.

Yes, in some photos she is downright attractive. Her mouth is lovely. I don't think that danged hairstyle she has in most of her photos does her any good.

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:39 pm

Does anyone have a modern photo of that house in R. I. so we can pin point exactly where on the house the photo was taken? I've always liked doing that kind of thing.

I always thought that was an envelop in Lizzie's hand. I'll have to look closer next time. That photo was the first I ever saw of Lizzie (1974).

-1bigsteve (o:

augusta · Post by **augusta** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:30 am

I am attaching a photo of the Farewell Street house as it looks today. I am also attaching a photo of the Farewell Street house as it looked in the 1800's.

I had thought that the photo was taken on the front porch. But I dunno. It's a common house - it could have been anywhere, it seems.

What proof is there that that photo was taken at the Farewell Street house?

augusta · Post by **augusta** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:34 am

This is William King Covell on the front porch of the Farewell Street house.
It shows a closeup of the siding.

augusta · Post by **augusta** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:40 am

This is the Farewell Street house after 1885. This is probably how it looked when Lizzie visited it.

1bigsteve · Post by **1bigsteve** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:55 am

Thank you for the photos, Augusta. That chair Lizzie is standing behind has a different style than the one the elderly man is sitting in or the one closer to the wall. It also seems very short, unless Lizzie is standing on a box.

There is a window or door frame right behind Lizzie's right shoulder so I'm guessing the photo was taken to the right of that main doorway. I doubt the chair would have been on the dirt so it most likely would have been shot on the porch. Of course it may not have been that house at all. This kind of stuff is right up my alley.

Thanks again, Augusta.

-1bigsteve (o:

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:56 am

For more on the story, see The Hatchet issue Dec/Jan 2005, Vol. 2, #6, only 6 months old to the day, June 4th!
Article titled "New Lizzie Finds" by Sherry Chapman.

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