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"Oh, I do wish Uncle John would leave. I can't go down stairs until he does and I have so many things to do this morning. All that work to be done ironing handerkerchiefs and gathering my fishing gear. After that I'll have the rest of the morning for other things. Oh dear, what shall I do?"
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And fool enough to think that's what I'll find
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From front door: Knock! knock!
Bridget, washing dining room windows, throws wash cloth into the bucket and wiping her brow, heads to the front door to answer it. Suddenly suspicious, she stays her hand from the first lock and calls out-
Bridget: Who is it?
Andrew (from outside) Me! I forgot my key.
Bridget: Mr Borden?
Andrew (exasperated): No, its the Avon Lady! Of course its me!
Bridget (unfastening the locks, muttering): Well, Miss Avon Lady, me hands are raw! I'll have a couple of jars of Skin So Soft! And send the bill to the Nibses!
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Bridget, washing dining room windows, throws wash cloth into the bucket and wiping her brow, heads to the front door to answer it. Suddenly suspicious, she stays her hand from the first lock and calls out-
Bridget: Who is it?
Andrew (from outside) Me! I forgot my key.
Bridget: Mr Borden?
Andrew (exasperated): No, its the Avon Lady! Of course its me!
Bridget (unfastening the locks, muttering): Well, Miss Avon Lady, me hands are raw! I'll have a couple of jars of Skin So Soft! And send the bill to the Nibses!
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"It seemed friendly enough, but it had sharp claws and a great many teeth. Alice thought it best to treat it with respect"
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Amen, Kash.
Meanwhile, Lizzie's in a dither.
"Who are all these people in my house and why are they questioning me. Me, who does all those charitable thingys. So what if they didn't find any footprints in the barn. Even though I don't dance they've said I was always light on my feet. Can't a person have a few pears in their bahn without being accused of murder..."
Meanwhile, Lizzie's in a dither.
"Who are all these people in my house and why are they questioning me. Me, who does all those charitable thingys. So what if they didn't find any footprints in the barn. Even though I don't dance they've said I was always light on my feet. Can't a person have a few pears in their bahn without being accused of murder..."
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And fool enough to think that's what I'll find
And fool enough to think that's what I'll find
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From reading the various True Crime cases, you must agree that when the people at the house did not do the murder, then it must have been some Unknown Subject. Such as the Ramseys, the Bordens, etc. etc.
Only those w/o knowledge or imagination would assume that only those known to be at the house could be the suspects. But there's a lot of this going around.
I'll bet Lizzie kicked herself a thousand times. "If I didn't honestly say 'It wasn't Bridget or anyone who worked for Father ...' I would never have been a suspect." No bloodstains or murder weapon, etc.
Do we agree? If not, I'll just have to keep pusing that boulder uphill.
Only those w/o knowledge or imagination would assume that only those known to be at the house could be the suspects. But there's a lot of this going around.
I'll bet Lizzie kicked herself a thousand times. "If I didn't honestly say 'It wasn't Bridget or anyone who worked for Father ...' I would never have been a suspect." No bloodstains or murder weapon, etc.
Do we agree? If not, I'll just have to keep pusing that boulder uphill.
It was Farmer William in the Bedroom with the Hatchet.
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"OooooOOOOOHHhhh. One of those peeers mustn't have been quite ripe...Jesu--get me to the cellar!! Hope there's newspaper. Ohhh-those peeers!"Harry @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:21 am wrote:Amen, Kash.
Meanwhile, Lizzie's in a dither.
"Who are all these people in my house and why are they questioning me. Me, who does all those charitable things. So what if they didn't find any footprints in the barn. Even though I don't dance they've said I was always light on my feet. Can't a person have a few pears in their bahn without being accused of murder..."
"It seemed friendly enough, but it had sharp claws and a great many teeth. Alice thought it best to treat it with respect"
Lewis Carroll
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Please, someone, send for the police! Phone the Marshall!
Ask him specifically to send a herd of blundering fools, who don't notice anything, have no memory whatsoever, make no notes or lose them, and especially are able to contradict themselves and each other under oath!
Ask the Marshall to instruct them well, so that every one of them asks the same stupid questions to the same witnesses, never thinking to ask any follow-up questions!
Ask the Marshal to coordinate a search of the house, so that every one of them of his own accord rampages the house in search of evidence, and fusses with any potential murder weapons, and puts them down in a different place than where they found them!
Help!
Airmid.
Ask him specifically to send a herd of blundering fools, who don't notice anything, have no memory whatsoever, make no notes or lose them, and especially are able to contradict themselves and each other under oath!
Ask the Marshall to instruct them well, so that every one of them asks the same stupid questions to the same witnesses, never thinking to ask any follow-up questions!
Ask the Marshal to coordinate a search of the house, so that every one of them of his own accord rampages the house in search of evidence, and fusses with any potential murder weapons, and puts them down in a different place than where they found them!
Help!
Airmid.
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It's getting too crowded down here. I think I'll go up to my room and change my dress. That pink wrapper will do nicely. Then I can get that cutey Dr. Bowen to come up. Maybe he's got something in that little black bag of his that will calm me down.
I hope people realize that this is all Maggie's fault. If she had built a proper fire in the stove my irons would have stayed hot and I could have finished my hankies. I wouldn't have had time to go to the bahn and all this would have never happened. MAGGIE! Get in here ....
I hope people realize that this is all Maggie's fault. If she had built a proper fire in the stove my irons would have stayed hot and I could have finished my hankies. I wouldn't have had time to go to the bahn and all this would have never happened. MAGGIE! Get in here ....
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And fool enough to think that's what I'll find
And fool enough to think that's what I'll find
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Here is your help.Airmid @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:44 am wrote:Please, someone, send for the police! Phone the Marshall!
Ask him specifically to send a herd of blundering fools, who don't notice anything, have no memory whatsoever, make no notes or lose them, and especially are able to contradict themselves and each other under oath!
Ask the Marshall to instruct them well, so that every one of them asks the same stupid questions to the same witnesses, never thinking to ask any follow-up questions!
Ask the Marshal to coordinate a search of the house, so that every one of them of his own accord rampages the house in search of evidence, and fusses with any potential murder weapons, and puts them down in a different place than where they found them!
Help!
Airmid.
Modern criminalistics date from the early 20th century. The knowledge that was used today was unknown 100 years ago, even dactylographs (the term in use then). Sherlock Holmes' magnifying glass represents state of the art tools. (There is a book on all this.)
Detection was in its early ages. Most people lived close by, they depended on eye-witness testimony in most cases. IMO
It was Farmer William in the Bedroom with the Hatchet.
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THAT tells me Uncle John knew he needed an alibi!Richard @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:20 pm wrote:Pretty soon Uncle John is going to be stepping off the trolley car, having memorized the badge number of the conductor, and strolling up 2nd Street thinking of the juicy pears in the backyard he can devour in preperation for supper.
He was informed of the death by Lizzie's messenger.
It was Farmer William in the Bedroom with the Hatchet.
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I think he was informed of the death after he stood in the backyard and ate three pears, and then entered the house by way of the side entrance and was immediately set upon by policeman. According to John Morse, he didn't know about the deaths until he entered the house and claimed he didn't pay any mind to the hundreds of people mulling about the front lawn.
Anyway, right now Lizzie is sitting in the kitchen being drilled by all sorts of people. Hundreds are in the streets. Marshall Hillard is over at Swansea tracking down reports of Portguese handyman!
Anyway, right now Lizzie is sitting in the kitchen being drilled by all sorts of people. Hundreds are in the streets. Marshall Hillard is over at Swansea tracking down reports of Portguese handyman!
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This South African site has a reference to it. Great shadow drawing as well!Mark A. @ Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:10 pm wrote:For some reason the Fall River Herald News made no mention of Lizzie in today's paper. I found that odd!
I think that I'll dash off a letter to the editor and ask her why.
http://tinyurl.com/p8hcv
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