Moody and Robinson

[Harry]

Ran across this curious tidbit in Rebello, p195+:

"... Attorney General Albert E. Pillsbury appointed Moody to serve on the Borden trial with Hosea M. Knowlton. Moody presented the opening argument for the prosecution. (Trial: 47-89) The Borden case was Moody's first murder case. It was Moody who suggested George Dexter Robinson be retained by the defense."

He would come to regret that recommendation.

[Kat]

Stef presented me with a copy of a huge dissertation on William Henry Moody this summer.

I guess I may get to reading it sometime soon.
Or maybe you would like...?

[RayS]

Ran across this curious tidbit in Rebello, p195+:

"... Attorney General Albert E. Pillsbury appointed Moody to serve on the Borden trial with Hosea M. Knowlton. Moody presented the opening argument for the prosecution. (Trial: 47-89) The Borden case was Moody's first murder case. It was Moody who suggested George Dexter Robinson be retained by the defense."

He would come to regret that recommendation.

That is your assumption about the correct acquittal of the innocent Lizzie.
This statement, if true, shouts out that there was a conspiracy to free Lizzie from her unjust indictment. Is such collusion typical?
That proves Arnold Brown's conspiracy theory, and what was said about this case by others (Lizzie paid off the lawyers to be freed).
At least that's how it looks to me. What is your reading?

[Kat]

The thing is, he has done a lot of reading, and you take snippets from postings and draw conclusions. By doing that, it sounds like you are re-acting, not acting. A snippet of info proves nothing!
Maybe you might consider opening your mind to other sources on the case.

[RayS]

The thing is, he has done a lot of reading, and you take snippets from postings and draw conclusions. By doing that, it sounds like you are re-acting, not acting. A snippet of info proves nothing!
Maybe you might consider opening your mind to other sources on the case.

First this case is not my main priority, and never will be. I was hooked by reading Arnold Brown's book at the time a local 40-year old murder case solved when the sister of the murderer broke her silence.
Second, I can only depend on secondary sources, what others have written about the case. Their value varies, but most have some merit.

The Bottom Line is that Lizzie was found Not Guilty, an acquittal that can never be overturned, then or now. I am amused how some people think they can know more than the people who were alive at the time and were actually involved in the case.

Monday morning quarterbacks, and armchair generals, are alway with us. I don't want to offend anyone, but look at this like most people do.
They will probably tell you that Lizzie was found guilty and hanged, because of the vague ides in their minds.
Newspapers for years have the same item on August 4 about Lizzie Borden, a needed correction.
Because of its relevance to the OJ Simpson Trial. "Yes, he's guilty but we can't prove it."

[Harry]

Stef presented me with a copy of a huge dissertation on William Henry Moody this summer.

I guess I may get to reading it sometime soon.
Or maybe you would like...?

Thanks, I think I have a copy, Kat. Moody was quite a man. Knowlton thought very highly of him.

Actually both sides had dream teams and they were pretty evenly matched.

[RayS]

The thing is, he has done a lot of reading, and you take snippets from postings and draw conclusions. By doing that, it sounds like you are re-acting, not acting. A snippet of info proves nothing!
Maybe you might consider opening your mind to other sources on the case.

OK, but how many people will spend more than a few hours a week on this? Its not my hobby, I'm too much of a generalist. (Not that I don't have an interest that consumes more time than here.)

FEW PEOPLE here seem to be familiar with the books on this case. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but others have their firm ideas as well.

[Kat]

I just read a big huge obit and follow-up memorial story on Jennings and it seems to support my stellar opinion of the man!

[RayS]

I just read a big huge obit and follow-up memorial story on Jennings and it seems to support my stellar opinion of the man!

Are obituaries the historical truth? Or are they written for the benefit of the family?
I do not mean to diminish the man, a lawyer does the best for his client.
As "Shark" says, we do our best, its for God to judge morality.

Were politicians then so much cleaner than today?

PS
Why not post it here as a separate thread?

[Kat]

You know, your response was so predictable! I knew you would say that! But you were nice about it.

[Shelley]

"First this case is not my main priority, and never will be. " "Its not my hobby"

Geez Ray- coulda fooled me for all the time you spend posting here.

"FEW PEOPLE here seem to be familiar with the books on this case."

Now that's a pretty blanket generalization if I ever heard one- And how do you know what people have read? Seems to me you have read ONE book.

[RayS]

"First this case is not my main priority, and never will be. " "Its not my hobby"

Geez Ray- coulda fooled me for all the time you spend posting here.

"FEW PEOPLE here seem to be familiar with the books on this case."

Now that's a pretty blanket generalization if I ever heard one- And how do you know what people have read? Seems to me you have read ONE book.

Yes, its a blanket generalization. Many books have been written over the past 45 years on this case (from Radin on). I think they are all valuable in giving info on this case, but some are more valuable than others.
They can't all be right, can they? Its like listening to people telling what they saw of an accident. They agree overall, but vary in the details.

Given the questions by some, I think some people are not familiar with all the books on the case. I know I haven't read all of them. Public Libraries are run by professionals who depend on those who review them as to suitability for library's needs. A library near FR will have different needs that one on the Pacific shores. And vice-versa.

Thank you for your kind comments.

[RayS]

You know, your response was so predictable! I knew you would say that! But you were nice about it.

But did you know him personally or through friends?

Some years ago I read an obituary about a young man who had been a neighbor of my sister. He killed himself. Years later I heard he was recently divorced, had 3? children, was arrested for drunk driving, and faced years in jail. NONE of that was in the obituary.

Decades earlier I read about the suicide of the uncle of a friend in high school. There had been a hit-and-run, there was a description of the couple in the car. The man suicided was a police Lt., they never found out (they said) who was the woman in the car.

Anybody who has been around and knows how things work will never credulously believe everything in the newspapers.

You might want to view the play and movie "The Front Page" for a point of view. Hecht was a newspaper reporter.

[Kat]

ray has been telling us for years that he has better things to do than post here. This is barely his hobby. Yet he stays. I think he must be addicted.
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ray- FYI- I don't know if you know this, but a way to search this site is to recall WHO said something, and then go look up all their posts until one finds it.

When you use the QUOTE feature first, on that roundup of your posts page it doesn't register the white box and makes it look like you said it, not the person you are quoting! I'm not sure if this will assault your sensibilities.

Check this out:

search.php?search_author=RayS

--In case you might want to change your habit of hitting that "Quote" button so often.

[RayS]

Thanks for the info.
I am not as familiar with this board as those who have been here since the beginning.
I will try to remember to indicate who said what in the future.
PS
It also suggests a need to differentiate quotes from from postings. Some sort of highlighting or what?

[Kat]

The white highlighting is on the page here but not a feature of the lists "Find All Posts By."

I only noticed it about a month ago. I started to sound like someone else on that page, since it only has a snippet of the first 2 sentences or so.

Now I write my response first and then put the Quote, but I don't know if you know how to do that. I just make sure not to start with a quote by someone else.