Lizzie's trip to Europe.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:58 pm

I'd like to start a thread about Lizzie's trip to Europe. While scanning through articles in the New York Times I came across an article entitled "Passengers on the Ocean." from June 29, 1890. This raised my curiosity when I saw the title because I know Lizzie left for Europe on June 21rst. I thought there might be some mention of her. It was a list of passengers who had sailed the day before on several ships bound for different destinations abroad. While I did not find Lizzie's name, I did find the name of Elizabeth H. Brayton as sailing on the Elbe For Bremen via Southhampton. I am still scanning the lists as they are sort of large. My question is was Elizabeth Brayton supposed to be making her tour of Europe with Lizzie? Or did they go separately? From all accounts I can find in Rebello it seems they only arrived home on the same ship, but no real mention of them both leaving on the S.S. Scythia.

Shelley · Post by **Shelley** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:01 pm

In 1890 Cunard was sailing Boston to Liverpool so that is where Lizzie would have departed from on the eastbound leg, Boston. The girls no doubt took the train up the day before, spent the night in Boston, and boarded the Scythia there. I would imagine a notice of their departure might have made the newspapers. Belmont, Massachusetts has a HUGE archive of all the old passenger records. One fine day I mean to drive up there.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:28 pm

Voila! Your wish is my command.

No mention of a Brayton among the Saloon passengers. Being a Brayton she may have traveled 1st class and thus not listed on this list. There's also no mention of Mrs. Cox, their chaperon.

diana · Post by **diana** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:44 pm

There were two Braytons on that trip, right? Elizabeth and Sarah. Not necessarily related to each other, though.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:35 pm

Yes, there were the two Braytons. I don't know if they were related to each other.

Rebello has this on page 17:

"Lizzie sailed from Boston to Liverpool, England, aboard the S. S. Scythia on June 21, 1890. Lizzie was accompanied by the Misses Anna Howland Borden and her sister, Carrie Lindley Borden, Elizabeth Brayton, Sarah Brayton, and Ellen M. Shove. Miss Anna H. and Miss Carrie Borden were not related to Lizzie Borden. ...."

All those names with the exception of the two Braytons are listed as Saloon passengers.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:59 pm

Anna and Carrie were related to Lizzie after all.

Thanks for the cool list, Har!

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:27 am

Took me a few minutes.
Here they are!

diana · Post by **diana** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:33 am

Rebello has this on page 22:
"Note: A profile for Sarah Brayton is not included, as there was not enough information to determine which Sarah Brayton traveled to Europe. There were several ladies with the name Sarah Brayton residing in Fall River in 1890: Sarah Chaloner Brayton (1872-1951), Sarah Submit Brayton (1834-1915), Mrs. Sarah A. Brayton, and Sarah Jane (Tinkham) Brayton."

Because Rebello profiles Elizabeth Brayton on the previous page as the daughter of David Anthony Brayton and Nancy R. (Jenckes) Brayton, I'd kind of assumed that Sarah was not Elizabeth's sister. She could have been a cousin, I guess.

Harry's passenger list showing all but the Braytons does seem to bolster Melissa's idea that perhaps the Braytons traveled over on the Elbe, joined the party in Europe, but came home with everyone else on the Scythia.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:39 am

The only Brayton I could find that a Borden girl married was Deborah Borden with David Brayton, 11-25-1742- per Peck & Earl- without a Brayton tree to folow up on.

The David Brayton part is getting close but wrong century.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:50 pm

WOW Thanks so much for the passenger list Harry! Thanks also to Kat for the family tree. You guys are really amazing.