In the Trial page 1496 Winwood [sic] was only called to the stand about the ring- but he can't remember.
As for when the bodies were prepared and where:
Prelim
Winwood [sic]/Undertaker
Page 388
A. Dr. Tourtellot asked me if Dr. Dolan had given me charge of the bodies. I said no. The Doctor came along a few minutes afterwards, I said to him "are you through with the bodies?"
Q. You said to whom?
A. Dr. Dolan.
Q. Said what?
A. I asked him if he had finished, if he was through with the bodies?
Q. What did he say?
A. He said, "yes, you may take them now."
Q. Anythingelse?
A. That is all.
Q. Now when was that?
A. Well, I should think it was about half past five.
Q. What day?
A. The day of the murder.
Q. August 4th?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you have any communication from him after that in regard to the burial of the bodies?
A. I did the morning of the funeral.
Q. What day was that?
A. Saturday.
Q. When Saturday?
A. One of my assistants came to Mr. Borden's house, I should think after nine o'clock, perhaps half past nine.
Q. Saturday, somewhere about nine o'clock?
A. Yes Sir.
Q. What were you notified then?
A. I was notified not to bury them.
Q. But between the time of having the bodies turned over to you by Dr. Dolan, and nine o'clock Saturday morning, had you proceeded to prepare the bodies for burial?
A. I had.
Q. And were they all prepared for burial?
A. They were.
Q. Do you know whether Dr. Dolan knew that you were preparing them for burial?
A. I do not know.
Q. Did you see him up in the house there, while you were engaged in it?
A. The only time I saw him, I went in with him on Friday night.
Q. Went in with him where?
A. Into the room where the bodies were.
Q. Were they then in the caskets?
A. No. They were on boards; they were not prepared then.
Page 389
Q. Was anything said about burying them then?
A. No Sir.
Q. He did not notify you not to bury them?
A. No Sir.
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The Boston Globe, Saturday, August 6, 1892 – 1, 4
HORROR’S FILL,
. . .Undertaker Performs His
Gruesome Task.
. . .
FALL RIVER, Aug. 5.
. . . Besides there is considerable disarrangement of custom, and this morning Bridget sets the table in the kitchen.
The dining-room opening from the sitting-room, where the man was murdered, has its occupants today, and no one cares to enter.
Last evening Undertaker James E. Winward prepared the bodies of Mr. and Mrs. Borden for burial and laid the remains out in the dining-room.
The doors are closed and the shutters closed. . . .
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Inheritance Laws --Commonwealth of Mass 1892 per Boston Globe
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Where Morse probably slept from Thursday night on...
Prelim
Doherty
332
Q. Tell what you did, where you searched, and where you went?
A. We went up in the attic first, to the servant girl’s room. We met her on the stairs, and told her where we were going. She went with us up and opened the door for us. We looked around that room, and then she opened the next room north of it.
Q. Was that a furnished room?
A. Yes Sir. I asked her who occupied that room---. We searched around there, went through it. . .
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Prelim
Fleet
360
We searched Bridget’s bed, and searched also a bed where John Morse had slept since, and I think had before.
Q.That is in the attic?
A.That was in the attic. That is all I can state just now.
Common Errors, and not so common...
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Andrew Borden had 10 wounds.
"10. Directly behind this and above it, and running downwards backward 2 inches long superficially.The general direction of all these wounds is parallel to each other.
http://lizzieandrewborden.com/CrimeLibr ... Borden.htm
Abbie Borden had 19 wounds.
FIRST an incised wound 2 and 1/2 inches in length, and 2 and 1/2 inches in depth. The lower angle of the wound was over his [sic] spine and four inches below the junction of neck with body, and extending thence upward and outward to the left.
[and]...
On the head there were 18 distinct wounds. . .
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"10. Directly behind this and above it, and running downwards backward 2 inches long superficially.The general direction of all these wounds is parallel to each other.
http://lizzieandrewborden.com/CrimeLibr ... Borden.htm
Abbie Borden had 19 wounds.
FIRST an incised wound 2 and 1/2 inches in length, and 2 and 1/2 inches in depth. The lower angle of the wound was over his [sic] spine and four inches below the junction of neck with body, and extending thence upward and outward to the left.
[and]...
On the head there were 18 distinct wounds. . .
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To be fair to Lizzie, she is recorded as claiming to say she thought Andrew was hurt (not *killed*), and that she did not say she thought she heard Abbie come in.
You will have to evaluate what Bridget says Lizzie said, and what Mrs. Churchill said Lizzie said. (Please note, there is not inquest testimony of Bridget extant, that we know of, at this time.)
Inquest
78(35)
Q. Describe anything else you noticed at that time.
A. I did not notice anything else, I was so frightened and horrified. I ran to the foot of the stairs and called Maggie.
Q. Did you notice that he had been cut?
A. Yes; that is what made me afraid.
Q. Did you notice that he was dead?
A. I did not know whether he was or not.
Q. Did you make any search for your mother?
A. No, sir.
Q. Why not?
A. I thought she was out of the house; I thought she had gone out. I called Maggie to go to Dr. Bowen's. When they came I said, "I don't know where Mrs. Borden is." I thought she had gone out.
Q. Did you tell Maggie you thought your mother had come in?
A. No, sir.
Q. That you thought you heard her come in?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you say to anybody that you thought she was killed up stairs?
A. No, sir.
Q. To anybody?
A. No, sir.
Q. You made no effort to find your mother at all?
A. No, sir.
Q. Who did you send Maggie for?
A. Dr. Bowen. She came back and said Dr. Bowen was not there.
Q. What did you tell Maggie?
A. I told her he was hurt.
Q. When you first told her?
A. I says "Go for Dr. Bowen as soon as you can, I think father is hurt."
Q. Did you then know that he was dead?
A. No, sir.
. . . .
83(40)
(Judge Blaisdell)—Was there any effort made by the witness to notify Mrs. Borden of the fact that Mr. Borden was found?
Q. Did you make any effort to notify Mrs. Borden of your father being killed?
A. No sir, when I found him I rushed right to the foot of the stairs for Maggie. I supposed Mrs. Borden was out. I did not think anything about her at the time, I was so—
Q. At any time did you say anything about her to anybody?
A. No sir.
Q. To the effect that she was out?
A. I told father when he came in.
Q. After your father was killed?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you say you thought she was up stairs?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you ask them to look up stairs?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you suggest to anybody to search up stairs?
A. I said, "I don't know where Mrs. Borden is;" that is all I said.
Q. You did not suggest that any search be made for her?
A. No sir.
Q. You did not make any yourself?
A. No sir.
Q. I want you to give me all that you did, by way of word or deed, to see whether your mother was dead or not, when you found your father was dead.
A. I did not do anything, except what I said to Mrs. Churchill. I said to her: "I don't know where Mrs. Borden is. I think she is out, but I wish you would look."
Q. You did ask her to look?
A. I said that to Mrs. Churchill.
Q. Where did you intend for her to look?
A. In Mrs. Borden's room.
You will have to evaluate what Bridget says Lizzie said, and what Mrs. Churchill said Lizzie said. (Please note, there is not inquest testimony of Bridget extant, that we know of, at this time.)
Inquest
78(35)
Q. Describe anything else you noticed at that time.
A. I did not notice anything else, I was so frightened and horrified. I ran to the foot of the stairs and called Maggie.
Q. Did you notice that he had been cut?
A. Yes; that is what made me afraid.
Q. Did you notice that he was dead?
A. I did not know whether he was or not.
Q. Did you make any search for your mother?
A. No, sir.
Q. Why not?
A. I thought she was out of the house; I thought she had gone out. I called Maggie to go to Dr. Bowen's. When they came I said, "I don't know where Mrs. Borden is." I thought she had gone out.
Q. Did you tell Maggie you thought your mother had come in?
A. No, sir.
Q. That you thought you heard her come in?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you say to anybody that you thought she was killed up stairs?
A. No, sir.
Q. To anybody?
A. No, sir.
Q. You made no effort to find your mother at all?
A. No, sir.
Q. Who did you send Maggie for?
A. Dr. Bowen. She came back and said Dr. Bowen was not there.
Q. What did you tell Maggie?
A. I told her he was hurt.
Q. When you first told her?
A. I says "Go for Dr. Bowen as soon as you can, I think father is hurt."
Q. Did you then know that he was dead?
A. No, sir.
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83(40)
(Judge Blaisdell)—Was there any effort made by the witness to notify Mrs. Borden of the fact that Mr. Borden was found?
Q. Did you make any effort to notify Mrs. Borden of your father being killed?
A. No sir, when I found him I rushed right to the foot of the stairs for Maggie. I supposed Mrs. Borden was out. I did not think anything about her at the time, I was so—
Q. At any time did you say anything about her to anybody?
A. No sir.
Q. To the effect that she was out?
A. I told father when he came in.
Q. After your father was killed?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you say you thought she was up stairs?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you ask them to look up stairs?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you suggest to anybody to search up stairs?
A. I said, "I don't know where Mrs. Borden is;" that is all I said.
Q. You did not suggest that any search be made for her?
A. No sir.
Q. You did not make any yourself?
A. No sir.
Q. I want you to give me all that you did, by way of word or deed, to see whether your mother was dead or not, when you found your father was dead.
A. I did not do anything, except what I said to Mrs. Churchill. I said to her: "I don't know where Mrs. Borden is. I think she is out, but I wish you would look."
Q. You did ask her to look?
A. I said that to Mrs. Churchill.
Q. Where did you intend for her to look?
A. In Mrs. Borden's room.