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I had posted some newspaper articles awhile back, and while I was searching for something else on the computer I came across this article. I can't remember if I had kept it to post or not, or if it has any significance. But since I seemed to have kept it for a reason I will go ahead and post it. The notes I have on this is that it appeared in the Barstable Patriot On May 20, 1895.
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Post by Harry »

Wow, GREAT find, Missy! Thanks for sharing it.

The May 1895 date is interesting. That's slightly less than 2 years after the trial.

There's a 1893 photo of the ship at:

http://www.maritimequest.com/liners/luc ... rofile.htm

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That is very interesting, thanks for the information, Missy and Harry! Having the photo of the ship makes the event seem more "real", in a sense.

Now, if I can just lay hands on Hanscom's notes.....
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FANTASTIC find, Missy! I've read she went back in many places, but I never saw any kind of proof until now.

Thanks for posting the photo of the ship, Harry. Very interesting.
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From the Maritime Quest website:

Won the Blue Riband (eastbound) 5 days, 13 hours, 28 minuets, 21.81 knots. Bettered
the record on a voyage June 2-8, 1894 to 5 days, 12 hours, 59 minuets, 21.90 knots.
Bettered the record again on a voyage May 18-24, 1895 to 5 days, 11 hours, 40 minuets,
22 knots. Held the record until losing to the North German Lloyd liner
Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse on Nov. 29, 1897.
No British liner would hold the record again until Lusitania in 1907.

It seems Bridget was aboard for the record crossing May 18-24, 1895.
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Wow! Great find!!!
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Here's the rates on the Lucania from the NY Times of May 11, 1895. Apparently the ship departed from New York:

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Here's the newspaper article regarding the record crossing mentioned by Yooper:

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I also located the Saloon passenger list for the May 18th sailing (too big to list here) and Bridget is not listed among those passengers. If Lizzie did dump a pile of money on her she didn't use some of it to travel first class on her trip home.
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Does anyone know the time difference between New York and Queenstown (now Cobh, pronounced "cove") Ireland? If we use a five hour difference, the Lucania may have departed New York a bit later than the advertised time, May 18th at noon. Departure time would have been 7:15 pm Queenstown time, and if five hours ahead of New York, 2:15 pm New York time. Another variable is not knowing from where to where the timing was done, some landmark on either end perhaps? If the 6:55 am time was noted at docking and the ship spent about an hour being maneuvered by tugboats in each port, then the departure time may have been accurate.
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You got it, Yooper. If it's noon in New York, the time in Dublin (as near as I could get to Cobh) would be 5:00 pm.
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That is very cool, Missy! Yay! :cool:
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That's really neat. It is amazing that people would be interested in Bridget traveling.
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