Hello everyone...
I'm new to this forum and to the Lizzie Borden Case which I'd like to learn more about. I've not read any books yet and only learned about the case from the Internet. So, I'd be very happy if you could answer some of my questions:
1. Which book would you recommend me to read first? I'm looking for facts and not sensational stuff.
2. What happened after Lizzies trial? Was the case shut down and all investigations stopped?
3. What did Lizzie do after her trial? Did she show any personal interests in finding the murderer?
4. If Lizzie didn't kill her parents, then who did? I think it's so obvioulsly she was the murderer because the murders seem to be overkills and these are mostly carried out by someone who knows the victim.
I thank you for your time...
Lizzie...
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theebmonique
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Welcome to our forum Nishmat !
If use use the links below, particularly the second one, you will find an AMZING amount of information about the Borden case. Everything from crimescene photos and legal transcripts, to books about the case. A lot of the information is available to download for free. Some you can purchase in .pdf format on CD, or in bound print.
Reading the archives here on the forum is also very helpful.
http://lizzieandrewborden.com/
http://www.lizzieandrewborden.com/LizzieABorden.htm
Tracy...
If use use the links below, particularly the second one, you will find an AMZING amount of information about the Borden case. Everything from crimescene photos and legal transcripts, to books about the case. A lot of the information is available to download for free. Some you can purchase in .pdf format on CD, or in bound print.
Reading the archives here on the forum is also very helpful.
http://lizzieandrewborden.com/
http://www.lizzieandrewborden.com/LizzieABorden.htm
Tracy...
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Kat
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Hello!
A book to read that is not theory-based would be Len Rebello's Lizzie Borden Past & Present. I think it might be available thru inter-library loan.
The source documents are good, as Tracy points out.
The *authors* usually have errors, flaws in theory and are misleading. But you probably want a starter overview- maybe someone has one to recommend?
I recently recommended the Geary book to a friend and she really appreciated and *enjoyed* it. But I re-read it while she was reading it and wished I had taken the time to point out the mistakes in it first.
Once those get into peoples' head it's very hard to shake them out again.
Newspaper accounts are pretty interesting and you could follow the same rule as with anything- don't believe every word you read.
After the trial, the local paper ran anniversary items that senstationalized the crimes all over again, and just stopped short of re-accusing Lizzie. I think her lawyers were confident that she was not guilty.
The officials then had to work on the Manchester murder - another woman killed by hatchet. That took almost another year, I think? So I think the police stepped back from persuing any more suspects in the Borden case. I believe some few were still following tips though for another year or so. Also the public kept the story alive a while as that reward was still valid.
Lizzie and Emma inherited the money and bought a house on the Hill, renting out Second Street. Right after the trial, if you ask what Lizzie *did*-- she went to visit the Wrights in Taunton to thank them for their care of her while she awaited trial; she and Emma took some R&R in Newport at the Covells'; they looked at homes to buy, and supposedly Lizzie went to the Columbian Exhibition in Chicago before it closed in October (?), 1893. [Maybe not in that order ] Then they moved into Maplecroft.
I don't know if Lizzie killed Andrew and Abbie Borden, but as I answer people who always ask me- I think she knew who did.
A book to read that is not theory-based would be Len Rebello's Lizzie Borden Past & Present. I think it might be available thru inter-library loan.
The source documents are good, as Tracy points out.
The *authors* usually have errors, flaws in theory and are misleading. But you probably want a starter overview- maybe someone has one to recommend?
I recently recommended the Geary book to a friend and she really appreciated and *enjoyed* it. But I re-read it while she was reading it and wished I had taken the time to point out the mistakes in it first.
Once those get into peoples' head it's very hard to shake them out again.
Newspaper accounts are pretty interesting and you could follow the same rule as with anything- don't believe every word you read.
After the trial, the local paper ran anniversary items that senstationalized the crimes all over again, and just stopped short of re-accusing Lizzie. I think her lawyers were confident that she was not guilty.
The officials then had to work on the Manchester murder - another woman killed by hatchet. That took almost another year, I think? So I think the police stepped back from persuing any more suspects in the Borden case. I believe some few were still following tips though for another year or so. Also the public kept the story alive a while as that reward was still valid.
Lizzie and Emma inherited the money and bought a house on the Hill, renting out Second Street. Right after the trial, if you ask what Lizzie *did*-- she went to visit the Wrights in Taunton to thank them for their care of her while she awaited trial; she and Emma took some R&R in Newport at the Covells'; they looked at homes to buy, and supposedly Lizzie went to the Columbian Exhibition in Chicago before it closed in October (?), 1893. [Maybe not in that order
] Then they moved into Maplecroft.I don't know if Lizzie killed Andrew and Abbie Borden, but as I answer people who always ask me- I think she knew who did.
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Kat
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I've talked about this case in trains, planes and automobiles. In hospital corridors, lawyers office, on the beach and on the phone.
My bottom line is just that- because some people want the shortened version: She was acquitted. She had to know who did it.
That makes her guilty under the law.
As to actually swinging the hatchet- that's hard for me to grasp.
BTW: Last night & tonight on WE channel, they are doing stories on women on death row. We get to examine and evaluate a woman who has killed. It's been interesting.
My bottom line is just that- because some people want the shortened version: She was acquitted. She had to know who did it.
That makes her guilty under the law.
As to actually swinging the hatchet- that's hard for me to grasp.
BTW: Last night & tonight on WE channel, they are doing stories on women on death row. We get to examine and evaluate a woman who has killed. It's been interesting.
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Re: Lizzie...
David Kent's "Forty Whacks" is the one best book on this case, 360 pages.nishmat @ Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:53 pm wrote:Hello everyone...
I'm new to this forum and to the Lizzie Borden Case which I'd like to learn more about. I've not read any books yet and only learned about the case from the Internet. So, I'd be very happy if you could answer some of my questions:
1. Which book would you recommend me to read first? I'm looking for facts and not sensational stuff.
2. What happened after Lizzies trial? Was the case shut down and all investigations stopped?
3. What did Lizzie do after her trial? Did she show any personal interests in finding the murderer?
4. If Lizzie didn't kill her parents, then who did? I think it's so obvioulsly she was the murderer because the murders seem to be overkills and these are mostly carried out by someone who knows the victim.
I thank you for your time...
For the best solution, read Arnold Brown's book on Lizzie Borden. He has a reasonable solution to the slayings. See also Todd Lunday's book.
I have organized the Proof for Brown's Theory in Parts 1, 2, and 4.
It was Farmer William in the Bedroom with the Hatchet.