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I had the oddest dream last night (it may have had something to do with the fact that the snow kept me from getting home, so I was sleeping fitfully at my son's house with my eight year old grandaughter who had her tiny elbows in my spine half the night) where I was like a fly on the wall watching Lizzie come toward Abby (it was like I was behind Abby, but it was on the other side of the bed near the door) swinging the hatchet. Then I was downstairs facing the sofa and I was trying to visualize Andrew who was about to sit down on it, but, at that point, I got scared and refused to let his form materialize in my mind. I hightailed it out of there and woke up with a start. It was almost like a time travel sensation with the Andrew thing, but I couldn't go through with it. I couldn't go back to sleep after that. Weirdness.
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WOW....that would, without a doubt, be scarey!!! And at the same time really exciting!! Did you notice anything else? I think just seeing Lizzies face, at that time would be a nightmare!!
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Just that Lizzie was wearing something all white, and she had the hatchet in her right hand.
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This may sound even more weird, but I think it's not impossible to have *time traveled.* I also think it's possible to have multiple dimensions.
However, my study of dreams has shown that we are everyone in our dreams- but still they are symbolic- so maybe you are trying to work out the puzzle of the crime in your subconscious?

You had posted earlier about being afraid to stay at the B&B because it is a murder site. Maybe, since your recent heath scare, you are trying to face your fears and work them out?
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That's entirely possible, Kat. After I got home from the hospital I had a very refreshing dream where I walked out onto a beautiful terrace and faced the ocean, where big waves were washing up close to the area where I was looking out. I had had a similar dream one other time after an ordeal and it seemed to me to give me a feeling of relief and renewal. I love to look at dreams and find some possible interpretation.
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You may be facing things in stages and that might be why you switched the dream off by deciding to *not go there.*
Eventually you will probably get thru that dream, or have already faced whatever it was.

The Feeling in your dream is the most important element, and gives the biggest clue as to what your subconscious mind is trying to resolve or examine.

Edit here: Let me put it this way- the images in your dream are symbolic, but what you feel is real.
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Fascinating. I've sometimes had dreams that have come true. Not whole incidents, mind you, just snippets of conversations, people, etc. It's very strange.

What's the thought on that one, Kat??
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Because there's a new movie coming out called Premonition, they did an hour show on people with premonitions on cable- A&E or something.
Did anyone see that this week?

There was a woman who kept dreaming of her trip to Thailand and would see herself cold and shaking and trudging up a hill all wet. And had a sense of fear and dread. She went on vacation anyway! Of course, she was in a long flatboat in the water when the Tsunami hit. And soon was trudging to higher ground for hours thru a jungle cold and wet.

Most people who have precognition do not have it about themselves tho. They have it about big events and it's very hard on them because they can't stop anything from happening.

If you have precognitive dreams you should talk to people in person who are evolved to the point where they can help you with that...give you instruction on how to use a gift or at least get used to it, or how to handle it.

I never felt so understood by anyone as when I met my first precognitive dreamer like myself. She totally *got me* and I her. And that was recently,. And I'm 55! I wouldn't wait so long, if you have any talent or gift.
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Well, I doubt it's really a gift or anything. It isn't ever anything bad--and I don't "feel" like anything is about to heppen. More like deja vu than anything.
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I have to say I don't like to (although I know we all do) dream, because they are usually scary. But what I wanted to post was that there are days that I can't get certain people (especially someone close) out of my mind. It gets to a point I have to call them to just say hello & when I do, usually something is going on with them whether it be events or healthwise. I finally stopped thinking of it as wierd and just think of it as a built in SOS system. I told one person this & they looked at me so strange, this is the first time I've mentioned it in a long time.
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I don't know which is worse (read: harder to accept)- when someone we love or respect looks at us like we're deluded, or looks and acts like *la-di-da what else is new?*
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Kat, what's your thought on recurring dreams? As a kid I used to have the same dream...not every night, but at least once a week....and always the same. It was more like something was replaying in my head than a dream. I actually continued to have it periodically throughout my life, up until about maybe 5 years ago.
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Was it a nice dream? Did it make you feel good?
Or was it scary or what?
You don't need to tell me the dream, but how did it make you feel?
That might answer your own question.
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Angel @ Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:35 pm wrote:I had the oddest dream last night (it may have had something to do with the fact that the snow kept me from getting home, so I was sleeping fitfully at my son's house with my eight year old grandaughter who had her tiny elbows in my spine half the night) where I was like a fly on the wall watching Lizzie come toward Abby (it was like I was behind Abby, but it was on the other side of the bed near the door) swinging the hatchet. Then I was downstairs facing the sofa and I was trying to visualize Andrew who was about to sit down on it, but, at that point, I got scared and refused to let his form materialize in my mind. I hightailed it out of there and woke up with a start. It was almost like a time travel sensation with the Andrew thing, but I couldn't go through with it. I couldn't go back to sleep after that. Weirdness.
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Kat @ Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:50 pm wrote:Was it a nice dream? Did it make you feel good?
Or was it scary or what?
You don't need to tell me the dream, but how did it make you feel?
That might answer your own question.
I can't say that it made me feel any certain emotion. More like I was another person, and reliving different events. I'd just wake up and be like "well, ok....that was interesting".
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That's your recurring dream?
Can you remember any detail?
My recurring dreams are etched into my memory.
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I know some people who claim they never dream. I find that odd, because I can remember parts of my dreams every night. When I was younger, I kept a dream book on my nightstand, and would write down what I could remember when I woke up. I still have those books, and it is fun to read them after years and years go by. Maybe I should start doing that again?
Anyway, I have been having a recurring dream for about a year now that I am lost. I find myself in some wierd, huge shopping center or arena or a big city where I have parked my car and I can not find it. The entire dream I am wandering around looking for my car and worrying I don't know where it is? Then while I am looking for it, I get further and further lost looking for it. It is quite maddening, and I haven't found it yet? Help!
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I have that dream a lot. I'm usually wandering around looking for my car and being unable to find it. I'm told that's a frustration dream, where something is irking you in real life and you can't solve the problem.
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Like many people, I used to have dreams that I could fly. There was a pseudoscientific explanation, though: I would take a running jump and then I would actually be falling, but along the curvature of the earth so that I would never hit the ground. By flapping my arms, I could rise higher, sink lower and change direction. I guess it must have eventually penetrated that this was baloney, because I don't seem to have these dreams anymore.

I find that as a kid I could remember my dreams a lot better than I usually do now. I can still rattle off lots of dreams from my childhood, but I only remember fragments from my current dreams.

On the subject of "prophetic" dreams:

Our doctor and his wife were about to go on a trip when he got a call from his uncle telling him not to go, that he had a dream that the plane would crash (or some other disaster would happen, I'm not sure). They went anyway, had a great time and came back safe and sound.

My aunt received a call from her uncle telling her to be careful because the night before he had the same dream he had had the night before her older sister died: He dreamt that her father had come from the ocean in a boat and taken her away with him. She went straight to the doctor (the same one) and had a thorough checkup. Nothing was wrong and she lived several decades more, long surviving her uncle.

Moral: If you dream that something happens, it means you dream that something happens.
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Smudgeman @ Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:53 pm wrote:Anyway, I have been having a recurring dream for about a year now that I am lost. I find myself in some wierd, huge shopping center or arena or a big city where I have parked my car and I can not find it. The entire dream I am wandering around looking for my car and worrying I don't know where it is? Then while I am looking for it, I get further and further lost looking for it. It is quite maddening, and I haven't found it yet? Help!
Your car can represent your freedom to go and do.
Has something happened to make you feel hemmed in or not able to do something you would like to? (Like friends are going off on Spring Break but you are not?)
Have you been questioning your work and long to take a break but it's not possible right now?
Your car might also mean to you your biggest investment. You might be worried that something may happen to it or to something that means a lot to you- do you feel there is a threat to your stability?
Your dream sounds like a *worry* dream, more so than a frustration one.
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It takes a lot of courage for the dreamer to tell their dream of possible presentiment. I don't see a *moral* as simple as stated. The person is putting their credibility on the line for someone they love, despite ridicule or ambivalence.
A dreamer cannot know that what they dream may become the future. They have to weigh the feeling and act or not by warning. I'd rather be wrong than say nothing. Not many get the chance to warn.
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It isn't my purpose to ridicule anyone. I'm just advising people to look at things critically.
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Kat @ Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:39 pm wrote:
Smudgeman @ Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:53 pm wrote:Anyway, I have been having a recurring dream for about a year now that I am lost. I find myself in some wierd, huge shopping center or arena or a big city where I have parked my car and I can not find it. The entire dream I am wandering around looking for my car and worrying I don't know where it is? Then while I am looking for it, I get further and further lost looking for it. It is quite maddening, and I haven't found it yet? Help!
Your car can represent your freedom to go and do.
Has something happened to make you feel hemmed in or not able to do something you would like to? (Like friends are going off on Spring Break but you are not?)
Have you been questioning your work and long to take a break but it's not possible right now?
Your car might also mean to you your biggest investment. You might be worried that something may happen to it or to something that means a lot to you- do you feel there is a threat to your stability?
Your dream sounds like a *worry* dream, more so than a frustration one.


You are probably right Kat that it is a "worry" dream. The company I work for cleaned house, and did a big lay off of alot of people in October, and I have heard they are planning on doing it again soon. I have been worried about that lately.
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Sorry Constantine- I did not mean you. I did not see you as *ridiculing*- but more like giving advice from your perspective. That is fair.
I meant when a dream is told to someone so that they will be careful, that person who receives the info may think in terms of ridicule. They may not say anything but probably are thinking that. That has happened to me, and it's an odd feeling to feel compelled to speak- in case- and then be shrugged off.
But if the thing doesn't happen, could it be because the person warned was more careful overall?
We'll never know- and that is the nature of describing a possibly prophetic dream- we may never know if anything was averted by the warning. Dreamers have to put up with that too. :smile:
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You might be worried that something may happen to it or to something that means a lot to you- do you feel there is a threat to your stability?
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The company I work for cleaned house, and did a big lay off of alot of people in October, and I have heard they are planning on doing it again soon. I have been worried about that lately.
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I think your car is a stand-in for your job in your dream. It's a big thing that means a lot to you and your stability. You were afraid you had lost it.
You also may be getting ready to tackle the problem of what you would do if you did lose it (car/job).
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