Has anyone ever heard of Andrew giving Lizzie a 'diamond ring'? I read this in a magazine article recently (old magazine) that has a lot of errors in it.
They were equating Lizzie giving Andrew her high school ring with Andrew gifting her with a diamond ring. Strange how this lousy article is the first I've ever heard of it. But then, this case is full of strange.
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I don't know if there are any other references to this, but in The Trial of Lizzie Borden, Edmund Pearson claims:
"Mr Borden, at one time, had kept a horse and buggy---the contemporary equivalent of a Ford car---and he had presented at least one of his daughters (the younger) with a diamond ring and a sealskin coat or cape . . . " (Pearson, 5)
"Mr Borden, at one time, had kept a horse and buggy---the contemporary equivalent of a Ford car---and he had presented at least one of his daughters (the younger) with a diamond ring and a sealskin coat or cape . . . " (Pearson, 5)
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You're welcome, Augusta.
In his 'acknowledgments' section Pearson credits all sorts of sources -- among them; Edwin Porter, newspapers from Fall River, Providence, New Bedford, Boston and New York -- and he goes on to say: " Many interesting facts were communicated during interviews, or through correspondence, with ladies or gentlemen who spoke from personal knowledge, but under the stipulation that their names should not be published." (Pearson, viii)
So my guess is that diamond ring tidbit is probably from newspapers or the personal reminiscence of Fall River residents.
In his 'acknowledgments' section Pearson credits all sorts of sources -- among them; Edwin Porter, newspapers from Fall River, Providence, New Bedford, Boston and New York -- and he goes on to say: " Many interesting facts were communicated during interviews, or through correspondence, with ladies or gentlemen who spoke from personal knowledge, but under the stipulation that their names should not be published." (Pearson, viii)
So my guess is that diamond ring tidbit is probably from newspapers or the personal reminiscence of Fall River residents.
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I just love those interviews people in the past have done with those who were somehow connected to the case. Even the obviously fake ones - like in DeMille where the story of Lizzie changing the underwear of a female corpse she was asked to sit by. We know what some of the rumors were going around back then.
I wonder if that diamond ring could have been Lizzie's mother's wedding ring?
I wonder if that diamond ring could have been Lizzie's mother's wedding ring?
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When I was looking around for the purported 'diamond ring' I kept running across authors who claimed Lizzie said diamonds were stolen in the robbery on Second Street. But tracking that back just leads to the infamous interview with Uncle Hiram in the Fall River Daily Herald on August 5, 1892. He is the only person I could find who intimates there were missing diamonds. Lizzie never suggests this in her testimony, nor does anyone else.
Although Lincoln, Porter, Brown, and Radin credit the Hiram Harrington interview -- for some reason DeMille claims Lizzie told Alice Russell about diamonds being stolen when she visited her the night before the murders.
But, when Alice is asked at trial about this conversation, she testifies: "I asked her about it, [the robbery] and she said it was in Mrs. Borden's room, what she called her dressing room. She said her things were ransacked, and they took a watch and chain and money and car tickets, and something else that I can't remember." (Russell: Trial, 378)
I'm pretty sure Alice would have remembered diamonds. So I think the only source for diamonds going missing is Hiram Harrington's press interview -- and I've always felt that particular bit of reportage should be served with more than a grain of salt.
Although Lincoln, Porter, Brown, and Radin credit the Hiram Harrington interview -- for some reason DeMille claims Lizzie told Alice Russell about diamonds being stolen when she visited her the night before the murders.
But, when Alice is asked at trial about this conversation, she testifies: "I asked her about it, [the robbery] and she said it was in Mrs. Borden's room, what she called her dressing room. She said her things were ransacked, and they took a watch and chain and money and car tickets, and something else that I can't remember." (Russell: Trial, 378)
I'm pretty sure Alice would have remembered diamonds. So I think the only source for diamonds going missing is Hiram Harrington's press interview -- and I've always felt that particular bit of reportage should be served with more than a grain of salt.