Lizzie Borden Society Forum

The most common issue which arises that really irks me is the "Morse had a perfect alibi" gibberish. Particularly when this perspective is raised and includes the false claim that Morse mentioned the streetcar conductors' badge # in his statements to the police.

A less high profile 'pet peeve' for me is how often Lizzie apologists include, "a Sunday schoolteacher", in their description of Lizzie. Lizzie stopped teaching Sunday School prior to the Europe excursion, well over two years prior to the murders. So, if mentioning this is absolutely necessary, the apologists should at least edit their commentary to say, "Ex or former Sunday Schoolteacher".

Without mentioning the source , John knew all six Catholic priests names on the street car.
If one needed an alibi, a perfect one should do fine.
Imagine if it weren’t.

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The closest thing to a pet peeve for me is people saying there was no blood found on Lizzie. Yes, yes there was, and it is 100% consistent with cast off if she was straddling Abby and the back of her dress lifted up to expose the bottom of her underdress.

But, much more relevant is almost every major player is usually portrayed as an archetype character that is either outright wrong or far more nuanced than portrayed.

Andrew Archetype: Scrooge, in reality he was generous with some things and strict with others, more about principles than absolute dollars.

Abby Archetype: Evil Stepmother, in reality she may have been the most normal, friendly person in the bunch

Lizzie Archetype: young, rebellious, feminist pioneer, in reality a middle-aged woman trying to protect what she thought was rightfully hers while she was still young enough to have the lifestyle she felt entitled to.

John Morse Archetype: Creepy uncle with a fabricated alibi - ironically he has a solid, normal alibi bolstered by the defense's own notes (Jennings Journals), and the fabrications of a book decades later caused the false portrayal.

The amount of people who post videos/podcasts claiming to have “solved the case”, speak for over an hour, and bring nothing to the table.

Ditto on that one.

Inspector wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2026 9:44 am The amount of people who post videos/podcasts claiming to have “solved the case”, speak for over an hour, and bring nothing to the table.

That's almost the entire content of Youtube these days lol